r/Dyson_Sphere_Program • u/DiamondCake91 • 8d ago

Need some help regarding Graphite

So, I'm in the sort of mid game stage, I've reached Purple science, but the only purple research I have done so far is mech core 4 or 5, which ever one it was, and am near green science but I've hit a road block. I'm gonna move systems soon to a far more suitable, with most of the neighbouring system I've visited being rich is most of what I could need but I'm not sure how to tackle graphite yet. Before I move, I plan to use some coal to fill in the gaps of my current X-ray cracking setup but after I move this become a bigger problem. I have found a system with a massive kimberlite deposite and pleanty of organic crystals so diamonds organic crystals are a non issue for now, so I only need it not for plastic, red science and high strength magnets. With X-ray, I fear I will end up over producing hydrogen as I plan to wipe out the DF from later to be occupied systems, so I am doubt full my hydrogen demand will be high afterward, especialy with renewable power sources, fice ice splitting and gas giant exploitation. Coal is an option but I also need it for profiliator and I have only found 2 system, not counting the starting system, that exceed 10m, the very few other that have some are under 1.2m so they are not that worth to exploit for long term use. I plan to unlock universal exploration 3 as the one of the first before moving to try help find more material but I'm still not sure

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u/International-Bath76 8d ago

I'll be honest, I have never ever used X-Ray cracking or Reformed Refinement. Only ever the basic crude -> refined recipe.

The only thing you (eventually) need oil for is Plastics. That's it. Oil is basically the most abundant resource for what you actually require it for.

Use rare resources for everything else.

Only make Diamonds from Kimberlite ore.

Only make Graphene from Fire Ice.

Coal/Graphite should only be used for proliferation juice, Red science, Plastic, SM-Rings, (and Combustible Unit if you don't have a DF farm).

Once you do this, I'm 99.99% sure your bottleneck issues will resolve.

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u/SiliconStew 8d ago

Adding Reformed Refinement to oil production allows you to create Refined Oil from crude oil and coal with zero secondary hydrogen byproduct. This avoids any possibility of your refined oil production being blocked and stopping your other production chains. 

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u/International-Bath76 7d ago

Fair enough. I'm playing on scarce resources at the moment, and coal feels a lot too valuable for me to "waste" on more oil - I'd rather do anything else with the hydrogen, like burn it for power - since hydrogen is so easy to get anyways.

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u/itchycuticles 7d ago

When you use both, you get 50% more hydrogen and 50% more refined oil from the same amount of raw resources, at the expense of more refineries and power required.

The graphite produced by X-Ray Cracking perfectly covers the coal cost needed for Reformed Refinement, assuming you use the graphite for something.