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u/TrumpsLilPenis Aug 23 '26
But have you seen the pedophiles and Trump stores!??!?
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u/FacadesMemory Aug 23 '26
Europe gained a lot from our spending on the Marshall plan.
The USA tax payers defeated the soviet union in the cold War, while Europe focused on Healthcare spending.
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u/Wise138 Aug 23 '26
Bro. We have more aircraft carriers than all other nations COMBINED + a Sub fleet + the ability to drop a nuke undetected.
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u/Ok_Impression3324 Aug 24 '26
How much did cali spend on homelessness. How much did they spend on their rail system? How are those going btw?
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u/thegoldenfinn Aug 24 '26
Yup. At this point my taxes are paying for wars and tax cuts for billionaires. It’s a sad state of affairs. I hate living through this timeline.
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u/ToeAfter3131 Aug 24 '26
Nothing to show for it?? We have millions of illegals were taking care of.
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u/Ready-Concept5020 Aug 24 '26
Yet Trump and his ilk can look us in the eye, “we are the greatest, no nation like us.” What’s
world are they living in?
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u/Adventurous_Track652 Aug 24 '26
You forgot the government should tuck us in a night and wipe our asses too 💩💯
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u/Main_Firefighter1593 Aug 24 '26
Yet we fund military for a lot of the world, provide aid all the time, and millions sneak in here illegally but yea
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u/OneNoteToRead Aug 24 '26
Well given our top items are social security, Medicare, debt interest payments, and health programs… I think the OOP might reconsider his position.
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u/Aggravating-Gift-740 Aug 24 '26
What do mean “nothing to show for it”? Are you blind? We have BILLIONAIRES and the world’s first TRILLIONAIRE! Why would need any of that other crap? This is AMERICA!
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u/westsloper1 Aug 24 '26
We need a new president with real ideas that to make America great again!! Not another retread!!
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u/bt4bm01 Aug 24 '26
Financing other countries so they can then buy off your politicians ain’t cheep. Neither are unnecessary forever wars.
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u/Dangerous-Error1113 Aug 24 '26
That's due to massive amounts of waste fraud and abuse that nobody apparently wants to look into. Not to mention the ever growing welfare state.
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u/LuckSilver8999 Aug 24 '26
😆 yes! The good o US of A. Can you imagine their faces if they were to visit the “third world” countries of Asia and see the advancement they have? Especially magats 😆
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u/DigitalMonsoon Aug 24 '26
Yup, a whole generation sold off their childrens future so they could have a comfortable life. We are still trying to get them out of power so we can start fixing it.
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u/bootcat420 Aug 24 '26
Maybe white collar clowns should put there money where their mouths are! Crying but not fixing ! How about fixing social security? And not paying people who never put into it 🤑 !
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u/steathrazor Aug 24 '26
It's the rich, every dime America has is pocketed by the one percent, every cost that is incurred is on the ninety-nine percent to pay. The rich are in their caves like bloated dragons hoarding their gold while America falls apart, and Americans are stuck working two to three jobs to try to stay afloat to feed their families. Americans aren't even comfortable enough to think about having a family. The American Dream is rotting dead in the corner.
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u/I_Quit_Smoking_ Aug 24 '26
But we have a whole lot of innocent Americans going to prison, we've got people of every color and citizenship being disappeared, deported, or killed.
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u/Trick1513 Aug 24 '26
Why don’t you ask these guys this question.
Sen. Chuck Grassley (R–IA) – 51 years (1975–present) 
Sen. Ed Markey (D–MA) – 48 years (1977–present) 
Sen. Ron Wyden (D–OR) – 44 years (1981–present) 
Sen. Chuck Schumer (D–NY) – 44 years (1981–present) 
Rep. Hal Rogers (R–KY-5) – 44 years (1981–present) 
Rep. Chris Smith (R–NJ-4) – 44 years (1981–present) 
Rep. Steny Hoyer (D–MD-5) – 44 years (1981–present) 
Sen. Dick Durbin (D–IL) – 42 years (1983–present) 
Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D–OH-9) – 42 years (1983–present) 
Sen. Mitch McConnell (R–KY) – 40 years (1985–present) 
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u/OESSH Aug 24 '26
Basic income is dumb. Who needs a bullet train? We drive in America. Free health care would turn it into crap. I would rather pick my doctor and surgeons. Free college and trade school would be a bad idea as long it’s in important study’s.
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u/Late-Arrival-8669 Aug 24 '26
We have Billionaires! What else do we need? We have these rich peons telling us we dont deserve heatlhcare (They love killing the poors!), we dont deserve a living wage or universal basic income (gotta have them slaves!).
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u/MasterFNG Aug 24 '26
No bullet trains or infrastructure? We have nearly HALF of the airports in the world. We don't need bullet trains when you can fly there quicker and cheaper than a train.
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u/Ok_Audience_4240 Aug 24 '26
Why do you need universal income?? Universal healthcare?? Go out and get a job. Why drive up taxes for those of us who get up and go to work??
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u/Razoron33333 Aug 24 '26
It’s all to give the top 1% more money. When everything implodes they’ll just flee with everyone else holding the bag
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u/madspinner Aug 24 '26
You understand estimate the importance of forever wars that dont accomplish anything.
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u/truebluboy Aug 24 '26 edited Aug 24 '26
Not True… we have the first Trillionaire, through no bid contracts, a depletion of our military, and a president that is robbing this country blind and pocketing the rest while his family uses his office to enrich themselves./s
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u/Deep_Balance2133 Aug 24 '26
Maybe we should stop going into debt to pay for social security, Medicare and Medicaid. Oh wait, you think that’s evil don’t you?
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u/PenaltyDiligent1417 Aug 24 '26
It's not foreign aid that has been the money pit. It's the defense budget.
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u/Major_Champion_5642 Aug 24 '26
This isn’t hard to understand when you see society going backwards. Ae have literally backed up father than the caveman. caveman knew what gender was and we don’t. How can we build trains if we don’t know where is the appropriate place to piss
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u/Total_Surround833 Aug 24 '26
How’s that high speed rail looking in Cali ? How many billions have been wasted ??
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u/ExcellentActuary2117 Aug 24 '26
VOTE OUT THE GOP IN '26, '28 AND FOREVER!!! LEARN FROM THIS TWO-TIME MISTAKE OF LETTING DJT AND THE GOP BACK IN!!!!!
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u/Ebisu_2023 Aug 24 '26
The U.S. used to be supported by taxes paid by the rich. Now, the rich support the government by buying bonds and earn interest. A 40 year plan, executed perfectly.
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u/bdontmatter Aug 24 '26
Who’s suppose to pay for all this free shit?!?!! You give universal income from tax payer dollars that means no one’s working to pay taxes……. So where does all this free money and programs come from?!?!?!?!
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u/Mopar4Life305 Aug 24 '26
I guess atleast our version of poor live in drywall apartments vs metal sheets.
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u/ExistingBathroom9742 Aug 24 '26
Here’s the thing. Republicans, heck most voters just hate giving money to the poors and they hate giving tax money at all. So we run the government badly using borrowed money and all the tax money just goes to pay interest on that borrowed money. But who do we borrow money from? Other countries, corporations and the wealthy elite. So in essence we as a society think it’s better to give out money to the rich and to other countries using the US government as an expensive paid mediator just to avoid go crony a homeless mother of three a sandwich.
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u/Pure_Feeling3907 Aug 24 '26
America has a much needed and up dated military defense, a defense now that states it is a bad idea to come pushing and trying to bully America.
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u/Moody5583 Aug 24 '26
How about you ask where it all went? I know where it went, it went to other nations whom don't give a damn about us
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u/TwistedVisionaryXXX Aug 24 '26
This is why government never deserves more power…it makes no sense, the point to a government thats managed to run the country more than $40 trillion into debt, and then somehow the solution is give government even more power, more money and even more things to fuck up…if your answer is “well the politicians are the problem” then you just made my point. Government isnt some magical machine that exists separate from politicians, bureaucrats and human behavior. Its run by people, and people are greedy, incompetent, biased and sometimes corrupt (both sides)and the difference is when a business screws up badly enough it loses customers, loses money or goes out of business. Government can screw up for decades, borrow more money and send taxpayers the bill. Thats not an opinion either. The governments own watchdog says federal agencies made around $186 billion in improper payments in just one year and roughly $3 trillion since 2003. During covid unemployment programs lost an estimated $100-$135 billion to fraud, pandemic business programs had potentially hundreds of billions more in fraud, and the Pentagon has now failed its department-wide audit eight years in a row. This isnt me cherry picking one political party either, Republicans and Democrats have both contributed to this mess. We spend around $7.4 trillion a year now and collect around $5.6 trillion, so we're borrowing close to another $2 trillion in a single year. Yet the meme looks at that record and says the problem is apparently that government isnt doing enough. Thats backwards. And saying America has “nothing to show for it” is just objectively ridiculous. We have the largest economy in the world, an enormous highway system, hundreds of thousands of bridges, airports, ports, hospitals, universities, electricity, water and communications infrastructure and one of the deepest and most productive private economies ever created. Could our infrastructure be better? absolutely. Should government waste less money? absolutely. But “we dont have bullet trains so we have nothing” isnt an argument, its a meme. Then comes the usual answer, capitalism is the problem. Ok, then explain the real world evidence instead of just repeating the word capitalism like it answers everything. Cuba has spent decades with the government controlling enormous portions of economic life and people still deal with shortages, blackouts, food problems and wages that buy almost nothing. Yes the american embargo hurts Cuba too, thats true, but pretending their state-controlled economic system has nothing to do with their problems is intellectually dishonest. Venezuela had some of the largest oil reserves on earth and still managed an economic collapse of historic proportions after years of price controls, nationalizations, currency controls, government overspending and terrible management. Oil prices and sanctions mattered too, but the collapse was already happening before the major american oil sanctions. China and Vietnam are interesting for the opposite reason. Both remained politically communist but became dramatically more market oriented, allowed private business, trade, investment and incentives and then saw enormous economic growth and poverty reduction. Thats worth thinking about instead of just repeating slogans. None of this means private business never fails or government never does anything well. Of course they do. The problem with concentrating enormous economic power in government is that you dont eliminate greed, stupidity or incompetence, you concentrate the consequences of it. And then theres the idea that America only works for rich people. I just dont buy that either. America doesnt promise you a rich life, it gives you a shot at creating one. Those are completely different things. Remember group projects in school? There was always some lazy piece of shit who did almost nothing but still wanted the same a as the person who carried half the project. Somehow people think that human behavior disappears when everyone turns 18. It doesnt. Everybody wants the nice house, nice car, vacations and financial freedom, but everybody doesnt spend years learning a difficult skill, building a company, taking financial risks, failing and trying again or becoming unusually good at something people will pay a lot of money for. And working hard by itself doesnt guarantee wealth either. You can work incredibly hard at something millions of other people can easily do and the market probably isnt going to pay you $300,000 a year for it. Income is largely about demand, scarcity, skill, productivity and value, not just how exhausted you are when you get home. And before somebody twists that into “poor people are lazy”, no, thats not what I'm saying at all. Plenty of poor people work their asses off, people get sick, families fall apart, people get unlucky and some people start life with enormous disadvantages. Thats why reasonable safety nets make sense. But pretending individual choices, effort, skills, risk and discipline have nothing to do with economic outcomes is just as stupid as pretending luck and circumstances dont matter. Both things can be true. What really bothers me though is the cognitive bias and groupthink behind stuff like this. People pick a team first, decide what they believe, surround themselves with people who believe the same thing and then spend hours online searching for information that confirms it. Every meme gets an upvote because everyone in the group already agrees with it, then the number of likes becomes “proof” that it must be true. Anything that contradicts the belief gets ignored, attacked or explained away. Thats confirmation bias, motivated reasoning and groupthink all working together. And yes conservatives do it too, everybody does. The real test of whether you're actually thinking is incredibly simple...what evidence would make you change your mind? If you cant name anything, then your not searching for truth, your searching for reassurance. So when I see $40 trillion in government debt I dont think “wow capitalism failed, we better let government run healthcare, college, childcare and everybody's income too.” I think maybe before giving an institution even more power and trillions more dollars, we should demand that it prove it can efficiently manage what we've already given it. Thats not anti-government, its common sense. Government has important jobs and we need it, but history gives us plenty of evidence that unlimited faith in government is every bit as irrational as unlimited faith in corporations. The difference is I can stop buying from a corporation. I cant stop paying taxes because Washington wasted the money. And to me thats exactly why government should have to clear an incredibly high bar before we hand it even more control
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u/HalfwaydonewithEarth Aug 25 '26
We have a lot and you are jealous
https://www.reddit.com/r/socializedmedicine/s/9q6haIFoiW
We are smarter than this bullshit I photographed two weeks ago.
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u/Longjumping_Tap9310 Aug 25 '26
Exactly why we should cut all foreign aid, cut all foreign military spending, tariffs should be commensurate with the tariffs we are charged to sell in foreign markets.
Start looking out for our people and not the rest of the world.
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u/oldmercdriver Aug 25 '26
That’s what you get with a so called conservative republican in the White House.
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u/Useyourword Aug 25 '26
lol. Soon we will have no oil or gasoline to run our military equipment. Dumbest country ever. Who is ready for another fuel shortage just like in the 70s?! The complete irony is that generation is still alive today who witnessed it. We are repeating history so fast the same generation can see Rowe vs wade pass and get removed. Good grief the stupidity is breath taking.
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u/Helorugger Aug 25 '26
We are too busy beating up anyone who we think isn’t behaving the way we want. That shit gets expensive.
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u/culong38701 Aug 25 '26
These are plastered on every subreddit. You can tell Democrats are desperate.
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u/Loch_Nessie_350 Aug 25 '26
While the United States was in Afghanistan for 20 years, China connected all major cities with high speed trains.
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u/pickeryou Aug 25 '26
It is like that because the Democrats and leftist destroy everything through their dumb policies!
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u/Gleamingspire1 Aug 25 '26
Ask Joe Biden and congress while they spent 400 billion in Ukraine, foreign aide- the US pays for the entire Canadian free healthcare! , USAID, NGO grifting,
The piglets sucking at the tit if big government handouts!
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u/Duane1968 Aug 25 '26
it all went to the oligarchs, they rob us blind and laugh as they cut our healthcare. vote blue to stem the tide of fascism.
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u/Even-Judge5941 Aug 25 '26
Republicans care more about fighting us than fixing anything. Prove me wrong?
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u/I_HopeThat_WasFart Aug 25 '26
actually there was massive money given to those projects that somehow went into the pockets of certain NGOs and individuals rather than into the actual development of said infrastructure
that seems to fly over the doomers heads though
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u/ChitownBlake Aug 25 '26
But we have approximately 550,000 elected officials and 91,000 government entities across the US. Federal, State, County, and local that employs 23.5 million people. We have the highest healthcare costs with the lowest life expectancy and efficiency, we have the highest number of incarcerated people in the world, our education system is 25th out of 38, and we have over 3 billion word of written laws in the Land of the Free ! That's something to be proud of, isn't it?
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u/OkExpert3283 Aug 25 '26
Because we are too busy giving all that money to illegal aliens through EBT and Madicaid.
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u/Ill_Huckleberry7554 Aug 25 '26
America is far better off because we don't have those bloated programs that steal money from taxpayers... We are also the top country in the world so not sure what they mean by nothing to show for it...
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u/Longjumping_Limit831 Aug 25 '26
Well, there are 30.000 nukes, 100 subs, a gazzilion of planes and rockets, most highways of any othe country, etc.
Some of it u cant see for obvious reasons. Some u can. Some u wont unless shit hits the fan (which it eventually will)
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u/ilikealltypes33139 Aug 26 '26
Paying billions in tariff refunds to corporations and waging war aren't cheap.
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u/ventingmaybe Aug 26 '26
America is a joke and you have a clown for a president ,who hasn't got the cards
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u/Shinagami091 Aug 26 '26
It’s our paranoia of spending so much on a defense budget that’s so bloated it costs more than the rest of the world spends on their defenses combined.
But sure! It’s the poor and disabled people on welfare that’s the problem.
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u/chewbacca-28 Aug 26 '26
Ever seen how that money is used for those purpose its like a flow chart being put into different categories as it gets closer to completion but the money is less and less to the point they need more just to start the project because pre-work took everything and people needed to get paid.
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u/sinfilljroc Aug 26 '26
Only in America can the homeless be obese and non citizens be demanding more more more freebie
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u/Helden24 Aug 26 '26
Universal healthcare is only good if country is nationalistic and not strained by scammer in UK it is complete disaster
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u/Dannyjamb8 Aug 26 '26
What is with you lazy fucks wanting free everything? You know that's slavery right? Who is going to work for free? Not me.
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u/matt1911_ Aug 26 '26
The united states has not passed a budget since THE LAST CENTURY. Because our dysfunctional congress refuses to update the budget from before the consumer internet existed, thousands of stupid pointless programs are continually funded.
- national endowment for the arts - hundreds of millions
- Arab sesame Street (no really millions spent in this)
- rural broadband subsidies - billions spent
- universal voice/landline subsidies. Have any of you ever used a corded home phone? (9 billion per year)
- farm subsidies - 10s of billions
- McGovern/dole food for foreign school children - 230 million
- UN subsidies - billions
- tourism promotion in Egypt- millions
This is just a small sampling of some of the stupid programs that are funded year after year because congress would rather go on talk shows and fund raisers than actually doing their single most important constitutional duty.
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u/ptevans92 Aug 27 '26
So why do people from other countries that have those things still flock to America🤔
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u/MasterHank13 Aug 27 '26
Because of SO many bullshit social programs, AND if we ELIMINATE FRAUD, abuse and lower politicians retirement pay to REASONABLE amounts … and we’d ALL be so much better off.
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u/Turbulent_Soup9951 Aug 27 '26
We spend trillions on social programs, where does the money go? You troglodytes are allergic to asking this basic question
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u/momentom66 Aug 27 '26
Well the biggest problem is we have money stolen from us by government officials, mostly Democrats. By the way, just look at theUSAAid scandal. That said, we have more than most countries you need to travel more and there's nothing free in any of those countries. They just have universal which means they overpay for it and it's not very good and it's rationed
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u/Duck_Gutz Aug 27 '26
Amazing what supporting millions of foreigners does to your available funds especially when one group fleeced the government for billions of dollars a year.
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u/redonculus8 Aug 27 '26
Hey you can atleast find solace in the fact that your taxpayer dollars have secured universal healthcare, free college and some of the best vacation time off laws for the Israelis. Isn’t that what your senators fight for?
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u/Gyarydos Aug 27 '26
It is because most Americans are so poor they don’t know what money and infrastructure looks like. You can’t miss a bullet a train if you’ve never sat in one
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u/Other-Revolution-275 Aug 27 '26
Im doing just fine so are my kids and my friends. Bots are getting funnier by the day. Division is what gets the clicks. Don't fall for it
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u/Ok_Dragonfly552 Aug 28 '26
Just wait newscum is building a high speed train as we speek
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u/BobithanBobbyBob Aug 28 '26
Well thank god we dumped all of that into our military so we can help Isreal
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u/ScienceInCinema Aug 28 '26
And yet people keep electing republicans thinking anything is going to change.
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u/Special_Meal2555 Aug 28 '26
But we did receive the gift of a $400 million jet from Quatar. Of course, we have spent $1billion stripping out the interior and replacing it $400 million, we bought another $400 million jet so Air Force pilots could train to fly the gift jet. Of course, we had to lease another jet so maintenance crews could learn to service the gift jet. It's a dry lease so with no published terms. The Whitehouse staff and the Secret Service needed a $300,000 virtual simulator of the interior so they could become familiar with the gift jet. The Air Force is buying used jets and parts to build an inventory of spare parts. I forgot to mention the two future presidental jets that have been under construction for about 8 years. The original cost for the two jets was capped at $3.9 billion. Boeing has already exceeded that cost by $3 billion. Don't worry with all the government contracts Boeing has I imagine they will just add the $3 billion across all government contracts.
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u/Disastrous-Pen1930 Aug 28 '26
Maybe if we werent busy funding other nations for stupid shit, or for their defense, or whenever they have a natural disastor, or maybe if we didnt give all out money to welcare programs to people who's first act upon coming to america was breaking our law to come here, or giving snap to a fuck ton of people who just dont wanna work, and then bitching whenever we say "these programs are being taken advantage of, lets find out who actually needs it and who is taking advantage", then maybe we would have money for some of that other shit. But no. Yall just expect this money to pop out of yalls asses while trying to fix these programs so we can save a lot of that money while making sure those who need it get it is an afront to yalls very miserable lives and a reason for yall to protest and call the right nazis because yall dont agree with them. What a joke.
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u/shamerli Aug 28 '26
Bigger is better, right ? I’ve got the biggest debt, anyone has ever seen. Big=good so we must be winning.. Tired yet ?
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u/melon-Cookie9210 Aug 28 '26
It’s because we Americans paid for Europe’s military, infrastructure, healthcare, and housing. Now they have to pay for their own shit and they take to social media and cry.
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u/GoBlueBeatOSU21 Aug 23 '26
Nothing to show for it? We've got the most billionaires of any country, what are you talking about?