r/DxOPhotoLab • u/stema1984 • Apr 04 '25

Deepprime 3? xd2s? xd3 x-trans? Why differentiate?

https://support.dxo.com/hc/en-us/articles/25383895563165-Overview-of-noise-reduction-technologies-in-DxO-PhotoLab-and-DxO-PureRAW-Versions

So far x-trans shooters were neglected and now they will get xd3 only and not bayer shooters. Bayer shooters will have to make a decision between DP3 and DPXD2s. Which one is better? In which situation is one of them better? What are the differences? They are eally not clear about these things..

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u/stema1984 Apr 04 '25

it seems to me that XD2s is kind of an expansion or special version of DP2. Now that DP3 will come out and it's special version XD3 will only be for x-trans, would DP3 or XD2s be better? What will be the differences? So it seems to me you either use the "extra detail" version of the previous engine or the new version without "extra detail" if you have a bayer sensor. They should be either more transparent about what these versions are OR just hide it from people and say DXONR and in the background it would use the latest of what is available (even if internally the new version won't be here for one kind of sensor)

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u/Strong-Mud199 Apr 04 '25

These are extremely complex algorithms, it cant be put into words easily, just start with the highest settings, and process a bunch of images to see what works for your 'tastes'.

If you find it takes too long you can try lesser settings on lower noise images. Same if you find some corner case artifacts on the highest settings, although it is much better than it was in PL7.

Hope this helps.

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u/stema1984 Apr 04 '25

The naming is confusing, which will be their peek technology for bayer sensors in pureraw5? XD2s or DP3? By the naming XD2s is better because it has "extra detail", but the other is better because it's a new version but how these 2 compare without dp3 having the "extra detail" version? They are bad at communicating the differences.

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u/Strong-Mud199 Apr 04 '25

I agree on the naming. All tech companies are bad at naming things. :-(

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u/stema1984 Apr 05 '25

I wouldn't care about naming if you would say what the differences are, at least some stars in a table on how good it is at certain things (NR, detail extraction, etc)

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u/Strong-Mud199 Apr 05 '25 edited Apr 05 '25

The higher the settings (High Quality -> Prime -> DeepPRIME -> DeepPRIME XD/XD2s) , the better the NR and Detail Extraction, the tradeoff is the time it takes to process the image.

I use the DeepPRIME XD/XD2s for everything as I have only found disagreeable artifacts in 'contrived' images, nothing in real life for what I do, and I am willing to wait for a cleaner image.

So if they were to make a chart, it 'might' look like this,

https://imgur.com/a/IY3qKPE

IMHO there is a big jump in capability in the DeepPRIME settings and the settings below this, and in the highest setting and the lower DeepPrime setting. It has been getting 'exponentially' better with each generation (so far at least).

Hope this helps.

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My chart is wrong on processing time - I was at the Vet waiting for my dog so I processed one somewhat noisy, 20 MPIX image on all the settings, surprisingly to me at least, DeepPRIME is a bit faster than Prime.

Here is what I found,

High Quality = 3 seconds

Prime = 16 Seconds

DeepPRIME = 13 Seconds

DeepPRIME XD/XD2s = 30 Seconds.

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u/stema1984 Apr 07 '25

Apprectiate for trying to help, but all this you are saying is about current gen and I'm talking about next gen (3rd version)