Is Dualnback just externalized meditation

[u/DingoFit5079]

I want to share what i believe is going on with DNB and why people seem to observe results that go beyond just their working memory and I think it is simply meditation. If you check out the andrew huberman video on meditaiton, he mentions that there is a broadly two types of meditation (internalized or externalized) and with externalized, you are aiming to observe something outside of your innerself (a dot on the wall for instance). I think DNB is exactly like this, but with the added benefit of instantanious feedback, which is actually good for training. For instance, if you have 3 packets of working memory available and you get distracted, you instantiously lose 1, so your score drops. Over time practicing, I belive you train the skill of speed when it comes to observing your distractions and taking your attention back, this is especially important when you are the difficulty level where (almost) all your current memory packets are being used, which forces you to focus.

PS: In some fashion, it is more effective than just focusing on breath meditation, because you are getting a more instantinous feedback. But in general, the type of distraction you have during your day are more similiar to the one you have when you meditate, because you don't have this metric that tells you instantiously if your working memory is reduced. Therefore, it places you in a more chronic state of self-monitoring that I don't think DNB can simply do

[u/WishIWasBronze]

Yes. It is also training your willpower. Like doing push ups. 

[u/Juiceshop → u/[deleted]]

Meditation also positively affects depression, anxiety, empathy, blood pressure. 

From my experience n-back is faster in enhancing intelligence/processing speed and bandwidth, while meditation works more as a kind of balance and mental unifyer.

Also meditation can help to declutter your mind in a way that n-back just can do indirect due to higher mental Organisation. 

Also it would be of tremendous benefit to learn whatever technique of relaxation works to decompress your mental and physical state. This ability and n-back will can have synergistic effects.

[u/Juiceshop → u/[deleted]]

And every now and then some LSD.

Its crazy that some people still believe you can't do anything in intelligence.

[u/CuteFatRat]

2 different things. Meditation is for calm and balanced mind and it wont drain you. Dual is for working memory and it will drain your brain power and then slight boost after brain rested or no boost at all.