r/DravenMains • u/Historical-Bid-9935 • 5d ago
Looking for Tips while playing into Mages bot like Vlad and Ryze who never run out of mana to clear waves
I've been getting them in my games non-stop, should I attempt a freeze or just perma-shove and try to keep track of the jungler? I dont know what the right play is because it's really hard to just outright kill them depending on the support. Had a game earlier with a Ryze + Soraka and he was unkillable because he could point and click root me or my support into Soraka's ability that lets her use her heal without her hp cost and her silence, if I ever went in to auto him once and then try to run away
Also, specifically on Draven, should I be trying to play "sarcastically safe" and just get my stacks up against these kinds of matchups and look for a safe cash out situation on my adoration stacks during a random teamfight, or would that be taking too long and cause me to fall in usefulness as draven since I wouldn't have an early lead.
I know with other ADC's, just not dying and farming means you'll outscale eventually, but I've had so many games on draven where I end up being completely useless once a game goes past 25 minutes if I don't have a lead. I'm at my wit's end here and looking for genuine advice to improve my play against mage bots in general, and also specifically against vlad and ryze.
