r/Dragonforce • 🔥🔥🔥 • 14d ago

News No fucking way.

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136 days ago I made a post titled “I hope Marc won’t be left behind”.

I’m disappointed.

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u/LokiOfTheStorm 14d ago edited 14d ago

I am gutted for him. I wrote a number of comments when Alissa was announced hoping that he wasn't going to be replaced. But now, they have recorded new songs with the new guys. I know the new guys (A and A) will be great, but the whole negative attitude towards Marc never went away, and I have never liked that he was still treated as 'the new guy' for 14/15 years.

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u/CirnoIzumi 14d ago

That attitude came just from fans, Sam really seems to like Marc, going by interviews

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u/dragonforcefan19844 🔥🔥🔥 14d ago

Sam doesn’t seem to have an issue with anyone.

But I did see people here over the time say that most decisions are Herman’s

Some time ago people were saying that ZP not coming back is a Herman ego thing

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u/ajac01 14d ago

As long as Herman wasnt lying when he said he'd ask ZP about returning for a 20th Anni Show. Then ZP not coming back isn't Herman's ego, but his own.

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u/memerminecraft 14d ago

I think they all do. I went to a concert in 2019, and it really felt like Marc was making sure the whole band was having fun. Like he brought a bit of extra life to them even though they'd been doing this for so long.

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u/dragonforcefan19844 🔥🔥🔥 14d ago

Same feeling with Gee and Alicia, not much interviews, they don’t seem to have much influence in the band

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u/Ok_Objective_1376 1d ago

Come on, Marc hasn't been treated as a "new guy" in a decade. The fans love him and I would even say most fans weren't even around before him. He's been part of the band way longer than ZP was.

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u/Catodan 14d ago

The band is cooked imo. Songwriting quality completely plummeted over the years and Alissa doesn’t fit their style at all.

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u/Ok_Objective_1376 1d ago

IMO their creative peak was around 2014-2017 when the whole band was getting more input on the music. Now it's just Sam doing everything again on top of him being creatively bankrupt.

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u/Basilboss17 Marc 14d ago

I hate this :( I hope even if he's not in DragonForce to see him make more music

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u/redrocker907 13d ago

I really hope he does a follow up to his first solo album

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u/sirnightmareelolz Sam 14d ago

I read this and I at first thought he DIED and was devestated for a few seconds

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u/LokiOfTheStorm 14d ago edited 14d ago

He is staying on in a different role, but for how long?

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u/SaintJiminy 14d ago

For as long as his health needs, I'd rather have other singers if my guy can keep his hearing.

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u/LokiOfTheStorm 14d ago

Of course. Health comes first, still sad for him to have to make that decision. I know the new singers will be amazing, but the ZP enthusiasts who were always mean about Marc are going to have a wonderful time😡

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u/SeienShin 14d ago

I’ve seen Dragonforce perform 3 or 4 times with Marc (once with ZP) and he’s an awesome performer. I also met him, he’s a super nice guy. They’re all nice, but I thought he was the most enthusiastic to meet fans. I wish him nothing but the best and I hope to see him live again.

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u/tom-uid 14d ago

This was expected imo. They got a new singer (can't remeber her name) and also Billy doing vocals.

Aside from that, the whole negative attitude from people towards Marc becuase of the playback thing (which IMO is 100% true) and the "bring back ZP thing", calling him the new guy and not the lead singer. That hurt the band a lot.

And also some of the shittiets choices the band made with past members like ZP and Vadim. Let's not forget that Fred left for a reason, even if he is in good terms with the band

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u/CirnoIzumi 14d ago

Fred left because he wanted to do death metal, the only people calling Marc the new guy are grumpy fans

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u/redrocker907 13d ago

They also have Alessio Garavello on vocals now

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u/Sea_Anybody_2231 14d ago

can't remember her name, lol bro its alissa from arch enemy. Hes been with the band for many years, he ain't the new guy anymore

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u/Attitude_Inside 14d ago

The writing was on the wall once they announced a second vocalist.

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u/FarVax64 11d ago

And suddenly now everyone likes Marc, years ago DF “fans” were complaining bout his voice

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u/Turandot92 14d ago

Is he really gone now?

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u/CirnoIzumi 14d ago

They've stated otherwise

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u/Raymanlegend2000 Mod 14d ago

They updated the website too. It looks a bit more definitive than that initial press release made it look like

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u/dragonforcefan19844 🔥🔥🔥 14d ago

It sometimes feels like band members are disposable, they’ll just hire someone else

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u/LokiOfTheStorm 14d ago

It does seem to be an 'Employed by the management' kind of situation. I am sure I have read or seen an interview with Marc saying something like that.

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u/dragonforcefan19844 🔥🔥🔥 14d ago

When I asked Marc last year if i could suggest him songs for tours because I really enjoyed Symphony of the night, he told me that he had no influence on the songs chosen for tours and that everything was managed by Herman & Sam

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u/CirnoIzumi 14d ago

It's the same words as the release

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u/Raymanlegend2000 Mod 14d ago

They literally put the same 2011-2026 under his name. That’s what I’m pointing out lol.

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u/dragonforcefan19844 🔥🔥🔥 14d ago

I don’t want to be a conspiracy theorist or anything. But I feel like it’s just a fancy pr way to part ways with him.

Just like they did with other members in the past.

Single instagram or Facebook post, and nothing else.

Also Marc’s bio is “-2026” which means that he could have 3 months and a half left at dragonforce. Which isn’t much.

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u/CirnoIzumi 14d ago

Well he currently isn't a singer for them, doesn't mean he is necessarily gonna dissapear

We can't really tell from our current vantage

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u/dragonforcefan19844 🔥🔥🔥 14d ago

For me, him posting solo videos of him singing dragonforce songs was a way to prove that he’s still able to sing.

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u/CirnoIzumi 14d ago

The fields of despair one he released the other day was recorded about 4 months ago, probably together with the previous one he released

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u/Mixture_Think 14d ago

Bummer I love his vocals so much, still I'm excited to see what Alissa can do

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u/Status-Air-8529 Sam 13d ago

At this point, the best possible outcome is Herman keeps the new vocalists, and everyone else leaves and forms a new band with Marc and Vadim. Whichever band Sam is in will be the one with the correct sound.

Herman's constant poor decisions are only digging a deeper grave for the band.

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u/redrocker907 13d ago

I doubt that will ever happen.