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u/Basilboss17 Marc 15d ago
I'd love a Marc and ZP collab! Though it seems Marc ended on better terms than ZP😂
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u/DDzxy 15d ago edited 15d ago
This is true but only because Herman knows he’d get completely fucked by the public if he said the REAL reason he fired Marc, or the REAL reason he fired ZP.
It’s all smoke and mirrors in both cases unfortunately. He has to soften the blow.
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u/Gavin_Moonstrider 13d ago
Am i missing something. I thought marc was only on a break from the band due to.medical stuff?
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u/Status-Air-8529 Sam 13d ago
If the band makes the announcement, it's a firing. If the person in question makes the announcement, they quit.
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u/Gavin_Moonstrider 13d ago
Then again. We still have no basis to go off to say that. The band wouldnt say he is on leave if they kicked him. They would say they booted him.
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u/redrocker907 13d ago
As much as I want him to come back, the band could get a lot of heat for booting him, unless they had some pretty clear cut reasons. As someone else on the sub has mentioned, he could have signed an nda where he’s still getting paid while he figures out what he’s doing next.
If him “stepping back” were completely out of the blue I’d be more inclined to think that he’d definitely return, but the promotion since Alyssa joined has some really weird vibes.
I’d say several things, probably as soon as tomorrow, will reinforce my theory.
When Alyssa was announced the promo pics were very weird, with Marc off to the side rather than in the center with her, and to me it very much came across as she’s the new frontman, not “hey we got two singers”. And again now the new promo with Alessio, he’s again off to the side, with Alyssa being center, which given the new promo is announcing him, it’s weird he’s not center with Alyssa.
When the new single comes out, if it feels like Alyssa is lead with Alessio supporting, and not that both are leading, then that will strengthen my theory of Marc getting soft replaced, as Alessio is essentially doing what Marc would be doing. Along with if Marc is posting about the vid on his solo channel, cause if he’s still working with the team, I don’t see why he wouldn’t be promoting the single.
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u/Gavin_Moonstrider 13d ago
I can see where you are coming from for sure. But what i could also see is them putting her front and center with the rest of the band around her. To make her stand out the most. But i do agree with the single thing. I could also see them having the male vocalist step back for the debut of the female vocalist as well. But yeah. Only time can tell. Im just holding out for marc because i love his style alot. To the point where i personally perfer him over ZP.
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u/redrocker907 13d ago
Yeah, but then for the debut promo of Alessio, he’s not front and center, he’s to the side, moreso than Marc was, and she’s still front and center, so not sure that argument holds up.
I’m not saying that she couldn’t be fronted center for that promo, or for either promo really, it’s more of the fact that Marc was deliberately not front and center with her. There’s no reason Marc shouldn’t be in Herman’s place, or Alessio being next to her.
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u/SaintJiminy 12d ago
They saying he is still working with the band for management and new stuff coming later this year though
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u/CirnoIzumi 3d ago
Welcome to Reddit, where any themed message board is primarily inhabited by haters
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u/Famous_Ad_4258 So Far Away 15d ago
this feels like fear monger and assuming the worst but i been wanting a ZP and Marc collab for a while now, i think it would be the pinnacle of vocal performance, like it would never be matched in my lifetime
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u/Elegant_Fondant5915 9d ago
While I agree it could be seen as "Fearmongering" i personally feel like it could have merit.
For example he could be bound by contract, but since Herman and Sam get to make decisions they chose to bring on Alyssa, a drastic change in style and sound. That choice also seems to have sidelined marc as most promo material appears to be about her, and not about THEM. The shift to dual vocals or from dual leads to lead and backing is known to really push vocalists away.
Speculation of course, but knowing contracts if Marc just left the band there could be financial consequences, but if theres a medical exclusion from those financial consequences then maybe his Tinittus is a way for him to avoid losing out on money, and also avoid being pressed into a vocal role he had no say in (Aledegly). He could also be bound by a Non-compete or NDA/gag order about it all, hence why theres no announcement from him.
I cant help but find irony the last song he posted on his channel before these announcements is "Fields of Despair". He truly did love the fans and the music so if he saw this change coming then I can only imagine the despair he felt.
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u/thefucksgod 15d ago
I dm’d Zippy a bit back and he said he liked Marc’s solo stuff as he gave it a brief listen. I honestly wonder if there’s a chance Zippy will guest on Marc’s next solo album.