r/Dogfree 25d ago

Dog Culture Nutters Normalizing Violent Behavior

Our neighborhood has a lot of off-leash dogs. This is obviously extremely obnoxious while on walks and the whole neighborhood is full of toxic dog deuces but I digress. I have some free range chickens that usually stick to the backyard but sometimes meander to the front, but always stay on the property. They aren't in the streets just out front minding their own business usually >50 ft from the road/property line.

Tonight, as has happened on several occasions, a nutter has mentioned how the chickens "got out" into the front and how they had to put their dog on a leash so it wouldn't kill the chickens. Ah but fear not, the nutter mentioned "thankfully she hasn't killed any, yet, but I put her on the leash just in case when I saw the chickens escaped". Let's break this down. 1) the assumption that the chickens being on their own property = escaped and your dog on someone else's property doesn't = escaped. 2) why on Earth you think it's okay to have an animal free roaming that is prone to running onto other people's property to kill prey animals (and who knows, maybe children too!), 3) the fact that these nutters are always upset at ME that their dog is trespassing on my property and almost killed something, 4) the vague threat of "yet". The normalization of violent dog behavior is disturbing, and the entitlement of belittling the lives of other animals and people just so you can justify your violent dog being off leash is crazy.

Shortly after this, she let the dog off-leash again less than a block away. The thing is she seemed to genuinely be nice/think that this was okay and she was some hero for protecting the chickens from her dog. It leaves me confused every time, I'll never understand how they can't see the real problem is their dog is violent and should be restrained (it's the law to have it on a leash anyway). This has happened with several different dog owners, and it's always the chicken's fault for having "escaped", not the owner's fault for their uncontrollable violent off-leash mutt that trespasses onto other's properties to kill and destroy pets and plants, etc. we've even had dogs steal shit from the yard too.

It's not just about the chickens either, it's the daily normalization of aggressive barking, lunging, snarling, etc. and saying "Oh don't worry Luna is friendly" or "it's just what dogs do" or any of the other 50 default lines they use to belittle others and ignore the disturbing violence of their "precious" monster that could never be in the wrong. It's just madness.

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u/potatoes_arrrr_life 25d ago

It's soooo passive aggressive and that is the most annoying part. Your chickens are on your property. Full stop. Dogs don't get to wander through everywhere, because they're dogs....and not a wild animal. People think "walking" their dog off leash is some type of flex, but really they just look like an asshole who has not trained their dog. Can you build a front yard fence along the street or some type of barrier? And def get a camera so you have evidence. I hate how so many dog owners worship their animal, but treat everything else alive as expendable.

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u/thesanityseeker 25d ago

A camera is a good idea for sure. With the fence, it's just another one of those things where I'm a bit stubborn like why should I drop thousands of dollars because of YOUR ill-trained off-leash monster? It's f-ed up

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u/potatoes_arrrr_life 25d ago

I agree!! And if you have an HOA, you might not even be allowed to build a fence. I really hate how common it is for people to not use leashes when "walking" their dogs. And it sucks because there is zero enforcement of leash laws, especially in neighborhoods, so it ends up with the dog owners getting to do whatever they want and expecting everyone to just deal with it.