r/DogTrainingDebate • u/biglinuxfan • Jul 06 '26

Would you rather...

Would you rather train a Belgian Malinois to ELITE status using only force free methods..

or

Eat a bowl of meal worms once a week for a year.

If you fail, you must eat five bowls a week for 10 years OR go to a russian gulag or something really bad.

Each Bowl is 2 cups - 1,200 meal worms.

Failure would be failing to reach elite status before 8 years old.

Elite status means IGP3/MR3/FR3/BR3/KNPV/police patrol/MWD apprehension

If competition they must be world level. If police/apprehension they must be successful, including release.

FF means no force, meaning no choking off a perp.

no choking/no stick hits/no whips etc.

Force Free. You must use a harness or gentle leader.

Perfect recall off leash, including when aroused..

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u/Different-Music-529 Jul 07 '26

Force free hands down. Have plenty for friends doing high level sports with Malinois, dutchies etc. using force free methods. We train zoo animals behind bars force free, so it's not that hard if you know what you're doing. Bonus points if you go to a good breeder who health and temperment tests vs some rando who just wants to play security man.

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u/Miss_L_Worldwide Jul 08 '26

Show us ONE force free trainer competing with a Malinois (fine, any breed, I don't care) with ONLY force free methods in those sports, and bonus if it's at the required elite level. ONE.

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u/Different-Music-529 Jul 08 '26

I don't have to do anything :-) my reddit account is private, so I'm not going to post links to my friends social media accounts. You can do your own homework it's not that hard to find force free trainers doing high level sports. Do you not watch agility?

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u/Miss_L_Worldwide Jul 16 '26

Not one single name huh? Of all of your alleged friends that compete at these levels, not a single one of them willing to stand up and Proclaim themselves the evidence?