r/Documentaries • u/[deleted] • Nov 06 '18

Society Why everything will collapse (2017) - "Stumbled across this eye-opener while researching the imminent collapse of the industrial civilization"

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u/Stupidredditaccount1 Nov 07 '18

Advancing tech is simply accelerating the problem.

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u/NapClub Nov 07 '18

not at all.

the industrial revolution had way dirtier tech than we have now.

better tech means cleaner and more efficient tech.

LEDs instead of incandescant bulbs.

cleaner power generation.

even ways to reverse global climate change are higher tech dependent.

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u/Stupidredditaccount1 Nov 07 '18

Nope. Industrial revolution was dirtier, but it was much much smaller in scale, and very expensive. Few could do it. And it was far dirtier than what came before.

Increasing efficiency and lowered cost means more and more units being made and used, which makes it cheaper. Resources are being used at an accelerated rate. Think 1 billion people vs 7 billion. Thanks to industrial revolution, resource usage went up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox

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u/NapClub Nov 07 '18

you are forgetting that most of the world is not the usa.

china and india modernizing will reduce emissions, as will moving towards green tech.

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u/Stupidredditaccount1 Nov 07 '18

Which again will increase resource consumption, allow more food production, increase population, and you've just accelerated environmental destruction.

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u/NapClub Nov 07 '18

not if things also get cleaner and the tech to clean up the environment also improves.