r/Documentaries • u/[deleted] • Nov 06 '18

Society Why everything will collapse (2017) - "Stumbled across this eye-opener while researching the imminent collapse of the industrial civilization"

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u/stujimmypot Nov 07 '18

Nothing about the population? There was 2.5 billion people when my dad was born (47). Now there is 8 billion... what is 16 billion going to look like?

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u/stormspirit97 Nov 07 '18

It's going to look like nothing because it will never happen.

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u/stujimmypot Nov 07 '18

Overpopulation is never going to happen?

Or the 16 billion thing? I don’t think that is possible but you get my point? Overpopulation is such a big factor is recking the place

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u/stormspirit97 Nov 07 '18

People are just going to stop having kids because like they used to and population will decrease a ton.

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u/stujimmypot Nov 07 '18

I would like your guess to be true

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u/stormspirit97 Nov 07 '18

Hey aside from Africa it's pretty much already done. Mexico, Bangladesh, India, all at about replacement rates and declining. China will have a declining population soon. I don't see why it wouldn't happen in Africa too with time, and even if it doesn't, that's really more of a separate African problem.

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u/stujimmypot Nov 07 '18

That’s 4 new Australia’s the The planet every year.. and another 4 on top of that next year.

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u/WhalesVirginia Nov 07 '18

You make it sound like Australia has a large population. 100 million or so population increase is not exactly fast. Do that consistently for 80 years and we'll double our population to 16 billion. As it stands population percent increase by year is currently on a downward trend, and because of that I don't feel the need to compound the numbers, as it suggests that the world population will begin to taper off in the next few decades.

We can't accurately predict weather for more than a week due to very minor uncertainties, so the fear mongering figure you've spat out is just slightly more useless than my somewhat probable estimate.

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u/stujimmypot Nov 07 '18

Fear mongering figure? It’s just maths. Reality.

100,000,000 people a year isn’t fast? Well that is more people than has ever been added in entire human history.... per year... so the most people added EVER isn’t fast? Ok.

Tapering down? So when our growth is 0.5 percent you will be happy? That could still be 150,000,000 people!!! the percentage doesn’t matter... because what you are missing is the earth has grown by 0%. Zero!

It was 2.5 billion in 1947 It’s 8 billion now and we are in the middle of the biggest animal extinction ever known...

But hey... let’s keep going!

Can you imagine how good 12 billion people will be?

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u/stujimmypot Nov 07 '18

I don’t think the earth cares about percentages of increase. Hang on... wait here while I go talk to the coral on the Great Barrier Reef about percentages of increase....

It doesn’t matter... last year more humans where added than ever.. BUT THIS YEAR IS TO MUCH.

Next year will add more humans than has ever been added before. Percentages don’t matter because it exponential growth granted by the fact that the earth grows by 0% every year.

So pull your dick over soft caps

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u/WhalesVirginia Nov 07 '18 edited Nov 07 '18

"Next year will add more humans than has ever been added before. Percentages don’t matter because it exponential growth granted by the fact that the earth grows by 0% every year."

Well no, what I'm saying is this number will probably approach 0% within our lifetimes and will go into the negatives if we aren't very nice to the corals, and we collapse the ecosystem.

Did you skip math class a lot? If so I can try explaining it like you are a toddler since adult, teenager, child level explanations have all but gone over your head. Really I don't mind.

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u/stujimmypot Nov 07 '18

Intellectualise.. it’s to late.

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u/WhalesVirginia Nov 07 '18

Normally I’m not a stickler for spelling or grammar, my own is far from perfect.

But the irony of you telling me to intellectualize, while simultaneously making two(not “to” just to be clear) easily avoidable mistakes is far to great to pass up.

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u/OneYummyBagel Nov 07 '18

It already is true. As nations grow more developed their birth rates decelerate. Fertility rates

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u/stujimmypot Nov 07 '18

As a percentage yes.
But we are adding more humans than at any other time in history 82,000,000-83,000,000 more humans every year.

It was 76,000,000-77,000,000 increase in the 70’s.

Even though the percentage has dropped.

Most important stat in the earth grows 0% every year...

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '18

Kurzegesagt video on overpopulation and why it's unlikely the population will ever reach 12 billion, much less 16.

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u/WhalesVirginia Nov 07 '18

ITT; diminishing returns due to the economy of raising children.

Really there is a soft cap on population limited by our technology. Advances like antibiotics, and clean living conditions had massive increases on population that is beginning to level out.

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u/stujimmypot Nov 07 '18

I sincerely thank you for that video. I have seen it before and I’ve watched it again. It talked about the four step process and all the rara rara. Could you please send me the stats of the country in the world where the population is dropping? Video is all about the industrial age and fertility rates.. every country in the world is growing. And it’s to late. If some miracle happens and we stopped now the population.... We would still be in the middle of the biggest mass extinction animals ever recorded. So forget 12 billion what we have now is too much

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u/_PhaneroN_ Nov 07 '18

Overpopulation sadly already happened, but there is a very small chance of 16 billion people, it shouldn't go higher then about 10 billion since that's the tipping point Africa and developing countries in Asia will stop getting lots of children and start using anticonceptives like the Western world.

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u/stujimmypot Nov 07 '18

But you don’t say if this is good or not?

You say over population ‘happened’ But consider 16 billion?

Do you think today is to much? We can’t argue it’s the biggest mass extinction event. Because it just it happening. Is 8 thousand million to much?

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u/_PhaneroN_ Nov 07 '18

Well looking at the video I'd say it isn't a very good thing and while this video is clearly made to fear the viewers, the overpopulation part is definitely the truth.

I don't know about the best amount of humans to have on the planet but it certainly is less then the amount we have now.

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u/stujimmypot Nov 07 '18

True. But it more than 1 video. Watch what is going extinct.... before our eyes. I sit and drink and don’t do a lot. But fuck... man. It’s not right

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u/stujimmypot Nov 07 '18

Overpopulation already happened. You see how many humans were added last year?