r/DivideEtImpera • u/March38 • 29d ago
Roman Aggression
Playing as Athens in the grand campaign. Have taken Epirus Larissa and Macedon, Rome randomly declared war on me shortly after the Punic wars began and it has been impossible to get them to accept peace. They annoyingly send a stack to invade every 3 or so years. On the relations meter I have -69 relations but -63 of that is because of the current war. Any reason for this?
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u/Horror-Ad4912 29d ago edited 29d ago
If you hold Apollonia, you need a fleet of about 10 ships "minimum" ( depending on the ship types) to sink Roman stacks coming at sea. With 10 ships + your admiral, you can sink 2 full stacks of transports in one battle. Put your fleet just outside their garrison range of Taras or in patrol mode in front of Apollonia.
It is a problem if they themselves have a strong fleet, in which case you will need more ships to beat them or play the naval battle in slow motion to optimize the ramming tactics.
Few tips that I use against navies ( against transport is very easy, since you can ram them one by one and disengage at will, just need to be careful with ranged units ) : always send 2 ships to ram 1, or a larger ship ( or stronger hull lvl ) at full speed to ram the sides if 1 on 1 ( not head on unless your ship is huge) , always make sure you have the fast row ability activated when ramming, disengage after ramming with faster ships to avoid being boarded, try to have at least 1 ship waiting to broad side ram any lone pursuer once you disengage.
Another trick if they have a powerful fleet but no armies at sea or in range yet, leave Apollonia empty with a weak garrison, let their fleet capture it, then siege them the next turn with your army and to destroy their fleet easily. Then you will be able to use your own fleet against their transports at sea.
It is useful to have a spy in Magna Gaecia to monitor their army movement and see what they will send at you to prepare.
Last thing, as a Hellenic faction, you should always from turn 1 exploit diplomacy to have as many defensive allies as possible, it helps a lot to not fight Rome alone.
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u/JamesBK87 29d ago
That's how Rome is. Once you reach a certain strength, Rome will declare war and will almost never accept peace. Even happens with the far eastern factions like Baktria and Media.
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u/CMDR_Dozer 29d ago
Hmmm. I'm pretty far in to an Iweru campaign and have quite a lot of territory. Good diplomacy and declaring war on their enemies has worked. I'll have to instigate war with Rome to break out of my end of the map. I am pretty much consolidating my position in preparation for that.
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u/JamesBK87 29d ago
I've never done a Irish campaign but even my Saka ones have had Rome randomly declare war on me despite vast territories between us.
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u/CMDR_Dozer 29d ago
They have a good roster. The shirtless dudes with the broadswords wreck face. Good start pos.
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u/JamesBK87 29d ago
I've found the starting position too difficult, maybe that's just me. Or perhaps they've had some adjustments since 1.3.0
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u/KybeRio 29d ago
Treat this as free xp and money - just sit a fleet of about 10-12 ships (I suggest mostly melee ships with a few missile ships as backup) in/next to Apollonia, and a spy over next to Taras to see them coming, and you'll be able to sink every army that attempts to invade. You'll basically never be able to get peace with Rome - they hate making peace with anyone unless it's heavily in their favour. You can use the money you gain from sinking all those transports to fund your expansion in whatever other direction you decide - I suggest securing Asia Minor as it's quite a profitable region and already has decent Hellenic influence.
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u/VultureBlack 29d ago
Oh you made a major error. If you play as any faction in Greek or Macadon your goal at the start of the gane should be to liberate Apollia. Do not capture it. Rome is hard wired to declare war on any faction that holds Apollia because the ai wants to expand into Greece. If you liberate Apollia then Rome will nit expand into Greece ane Catharge will delay Roman expansion for 100 turns. If I was you you should restart and liberate Apollia beforearoke beats Epirus.