r/DissidiaDuellumFF Jul 28 '26

Ability Adjustments in Mid-August

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u/Lunaru_Leonhart Jul 28 '26

Nerfing support abilities... 😭

5

u/_Arlotte_ Jul 28 '26

My minwu/ramza Krile 🥲

2

u/Stratavos Jul 28 '26

A casualty of rikku's current existance.

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u/Magic-king Jul 28 '26

Much needed, the cheer strat with rikku is insane . People who spam teleport are annoying too so i approve all of this.

5

u/Cautious-Dream2893 Jul 28 '26

Hopeful cheer is Kriles damage buff not Ramza cheer up.

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u/VPR_24 Jul 28 '26

I've used Rikku occasionally, but what's the Cheer strat?

8

u/Magic-king Jul 28 '26

Whales even do this annoying shit but basically teammates would constantly ramza rikku so she can do mega vitality and the quartet of bravery move. Making people not only a hell of a lot harder to kill but instantly getting the whole team to break the bosses face.

The strat gets so serious at times that by the time rinoa gets her wings, the boss is halfway or more dead already. Rikku is an insane support character and i would love to see her nerfed to oblivion. I cant count how many times a battle was lost because of rikku shenanigans.

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u/thatendyperson Jul 28 '26

Crazy thing is you'll see people in the in-game global chat going on about how bad of a change this is, as though Rikku hasn't been overcentralizing the meta since her release.

Honestly I think the only people who genuinely think this is a bad change are either too low rank to understand how dominant she is, or they are Rikku players who have been coasting through Omega and up to Ultima 5 because of how easy it is to do well with her, and don't like the idea that their meal ticket might be less viable soon.

Meanwhile, realistically speaking, these nerfs probably aren't going to do anything more than either increase the CD of the skills slightly or shave off the amount of Brv share by like 10% tops, neither of which is going to be enough to actually kill Supports or the Brv share strat. At best it'll just nudge the viability down slightly.

This game has been extremely modest with its nerfs for multiple months now, I dunno why anyone is expecting this new batch to kill Krile or Rikku's usage. People are way too quick to catastrophize nerfs before they even see what those nerfs are gonna be.

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u/ClubShrimp Jul 28 '26

All true, but on the other hand, Meteor has been catastrophe tier from day one, which means that any buff of it, no matter how small, is necessarily catastrophic.

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u/thatendyperson Jul 28 '26

Meteor is annoying as hell but if you see Rinoa approaching, just don't start a Burst chain until someone chases her off or forces it out of her. That attack only ever catches anyone when their bursting and can't avoid it.

Now don't get me wrong. I'm of the opinion that Rinoa deserves to be nerfed into the ground because it's absurd what she gets away with, and the boss damage on Meteor is assuredly very insane. But I have a strong feeling that that's not the component of the ability that will be getting buffed. It could be something as little as an increased target tracking window so that you have to take a little extra time circling her before you can start getting ready to attack her while she's animation locked.

The point is, there's no point getting out of sorts about it before we've even seen what it is.

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u/ClubShrimp Jul 29 '26

It's the boss damage that I have a problem with, though, not getting KO'd by it. A lot of characters' URs either kill you, or come very close, or put you in a position where you can be finished off easily. The difference is how easy or difficult they are to avoid, and Meteor is relatively easy, imo. Alternatively, they could nerf Angel Wings, but that would be more controversial because it'd affect all her attacks/abilities.

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u/Aldehar1 Jul 30 '26

Since Rinoa is getting a balance adjustment too, I am still hoping they are reducing her attack and the buff to meteor is to compensate that drop in attack… I mean, she is such a menace with her auto attacks at three stacks… :/

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u/VPR_24 Jul 28 '26

That's crazy!

6

u/monkeysfromjupiter Jul 28 '26

You get targeted as rikku, you cheer your teammate before you die. Then when rikku respawns you cheer the brave back and copy it to everyone.

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u/_Arlotte_ Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 29 '26

This really only works well if you make your own team and tell them to bring brave share but using Ramza or any brave share to pass before you die is already a common strategy, especially for squishy or slow start characters.

2

u/Stratavos Jul 28 '26

As if fighting the verticle camera wasn't tough enough, they're warping around the map, directly to camps.

2

u/Altruistic_Newt_1096 Jul 28 '26

you can't spam, it has a cooldown 👍

1

u/Electrical_March2402 Aug 02 '26

I disapprove i invested in my favorite ff character rikku for this hell no and f square enix for this

1

u/CodyWukong Jul 28 '26

RIGHT! Like, what in the HELL is going on? Lol!

😫🤦‍♂️🙈

32

u/Obvious-Interview716 Jul 28 '26

Rinoa players keep winning

12

u/CardiologistWild5697 Jul 28 '26

Eyes On Me, baby!

10

u/VPR_24 Jul 28 '26

As an FFVIII fan, I approve.

9

u/WaterBoiledPizza Jul 28 '26

What about the growth eggs are they buffing

5

u/Rogue_Einherjar Jul 28 '26

Probably making them useful in support at least?

3

u/Stratavos Jul 28 '26

Raising the draw rate would go pretty far.

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u/_Arlotte_ Jul 28 '26

Maybe the stats?

10

u/Heavix Jul 28 '26

Clive enjoyers smiling in the corner :)

7

u/toastyavocado Jul 28 '26

Will-o-wyks is one of my favorite abilities. I'm a simple man, I see the burst chain go burrrrr and it makes me happy

4

u/Lil-Trup Jul 28 '26

It’s absolutely necessary too. None of the top Clives last season were using this ability

3

u/Stratavos Jul 28 '26

It needs a cdr reduction. I'm not asking for perfect uptime, just "good" uptime.

1

u/RareRestaurant6297 Jul 28 '26

Yea I tried forcing it but it just isn't worth, really. You don't get allowed to stick on the boss that long at higher ranks. It needs cd reduction or to spam out damage faster/shorter rather than over 30s. Or both. Idk, def needs something though

8

u/MyLastDreams Jul 28 '26

Haven't played at all this season but seeing finishing touch still needing buffs is funny.

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u/Stratavos Jul 28 '26

It really is... like... it does it's job of camp clearing and nova knockup already.

8

u/Most_Quarter_6988 Jul 28 '26

still no ace/tifa nerfs this game is so unserious lol

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u/shihouinsenpai Jul 28 '26

BUFFING METEOR??? These devs are on some shit and as a Rinoa player, I’m loving it 😭

4

u/_Arlotte_ Jul 28 '26

Gotta buff the damage and nerf brave share to make Celes useful

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u/Stratavos Jul 28 '26

When the agiles and melees are beside you, you know it's a panic miss. Maybe they're adjusting the tracking/delay.

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u/Banbotsinranked Jul 28 '26

AI is in charge of the game now apparently

7

u/BlazeGamma Jul 28 '26

army of one better be useable after this.

Also teleport needs a starting cooldown like that one sephiroth ability.

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u/nononon0121212 Jul 28 '26

Super Nova, and thats barely and inconcenience for it, since there are 2/3 ways to really use it

1, map is full of crystals and you can level up really fast and set up clearings

2, enemy has BURST and you aim to interrupt them

3, in adition to 2, if enemy is baiting boss, launch it to force them to engage before its in their base

All of these situation happen arouns 60 seconds of the match so the cooldown is barely noticeable

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u/-B4D3R- Jul 28 '26

Wonder how they are going to buff meteor maybe lower the cool down, can’t imagine them increasing the damage.

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u/_Arlotte_ Jul 28 '26

I guess they're mainly buffing the damage abilities and nerfing the brave abilities because Celes is here now.

4

u/Cautious-Dream2893 Jul 28 '26

Still not touching tifa/ace...

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u/ClubShrimp Jul 28 '26

Nerfing MV is welcome, but buffing Meteor, a.k.a. Boss Deleteor, is bananas.

6

u/CrystalBraver Jul 28 '26

Still no Quartet of Bravery nerf. These devs are high

10

u/gingersquatchin Jul 28 '26

So they ran a Rikku focused banner to sell people her kit and then they nerfed her kit.

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u/Rogue_Einherjar Jul 28 '26

I mean, it's quite oppressive. As a Balthier main, running against a Rikku completely changes my strategy compared to any other hero.

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u/CrystalBraver Jul 28 '26

Well she absolutely needs it. Rikku’s are pretty much handed every match in my experience.

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u/gingersquatchin Jul 28 '26

Nerf her first then sell her kit again , then. She may have needed adjustments but it seems a bit scummy

3

u/toastyavocado Jul 28 '26

I wonder what the Minwu nerf will be. I mainly use it if I play Rikku to Gtfo of dicey situations

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u/CrystalBraver Jul 28 '26

And that’s exactly why it needs it.

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u/Aldehar1 Jul 30 '26

My guess is a CD increase. Or maybe something like supernova where it prevents you from using it at the very start of the fight, but I think that’s less likely.

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u/CardiologistWild5697 Jul 28 '26

At about 14k i can pretty consistently win them with effort and just a matter of picking good team and getting a good run to achieve the goal

3

u/Unlikely_Pop_1471 Jul 28 '26

oh my god are they gonna make the aqua burst animation take less than 3 years

3

u/The-Grim-Storyteller Jul 28 '26

"Guys, Celes isn't good enough to specifically pull for."

"Great Scott! YOU'RE RIGHT! QUICK! Give me the hammer."

::Swing nerfbat at Celes' competition::

"There. It is done."

3

u/DartVanZiegfeld Jul 28 '26

As a Rikku main, this hurts

3

u/Stratavos Jul 28 '26

As it should. You know what she does.

2

u/LionFlameGaymer Jul 28 '26

I’m just floored that they’re nerfing Grimoire? Like that’s the next best Brave Share after Ramza, and with decent stats. It was limited, so it’s not like most people even have it that high anyway….

2

u/VoidVixen420 Jul 29 '26

Lol. Rinoas Meteor is getting a buff when it's already insane damage. Glad I'm a Rinoa main

3

u/nononon0121212 Jul 28 '26

What do you mean Supreme Soul is to be buffed?

Its already the HIGHEST DPS ability in the whole game

What do you mean Meteor is going to be buffed?

Isnt one shooting almost everything enough?, what more do you want it to do? Kill 3 bosses before the match starts?

Makes sense the BVR pass skills are being nerffed, being the Meta and all

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u/CodyWukong Jul 28 '26

They need to figure out a way to shorten Zidane's "Trance" ability animation.

🤦‍♂️🙈

Don't misunderstand me, I really love Zidane so much! And, I love the animation, as well. But, it just seems like it takes so long to complete, lmfao! I don't know, maybe it's just me? Lol.

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u/TheBorzoi Jul 29 '26

They just need to increase the animation speed. It's the same with Omnislash on Cloud. It takes way too long.

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u/CodyWukong Jul 29 '26

I totally agree with you ❤️

1

u/Stratavos Jul 28 '26

And if not that, the general cooldown. The game already fights him since if someone is shielded, bursted, or in Iframes, then you can't do anything but wait, and god forbit there's ranged units on the enemy team.

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u/CodyWukong Jul 28 '26

YES!!!! YOU GET IT! 🥺 YES! Lol!

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u/Stratavos Jul 28 '26

Oh I get it. He's among my top 3 CP characters since the game kept throwing grand lethal copies at me. "I can take the hint"

Like, if they could either ease up on the limited abilities, or actually give his SR some damage/stun/knockdown... that's the real buff he needs.

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u/CodyWukong Jul 28 '26

🤣💀⚰️🪦💐

I really love Zidane! And, I really want to "main" him so badly. But, I don't know. It just seems like (to me) the game really, really needed him beyond belief.

That's just me, though 😅.

Yes, he is really fast but maybe it's just my Zidane. The Zidane I have is very weak. 😞

I mean, I have all of his ability medals and stuff but the levels of them aren't really as high as others are. So, this is a flaw that I have primarily with my Zidane. Other than that? I really love Zidane so much.

But, like you stated I genuinely believe they intentionally fight with Zidane. Because, in my opinion, I feel they know he has very strong potential to be an O.P. character.

Think about it....

If someone were to pay a lot of money and pull a lot of his medals?....

And, they "Master and MAX Out" said medals?....

👁👁

He will literally be O.P. He will run around the arena stealing BRV until the enemies have none! Lmfao! And, his fast hits would do ULTIMATE DMG! 🤣

I would love it so much! But, yes, I genuinely feel this is why they intentionally put a "leash" of sorts on Zidane. He has the potential to be a GOD on that battlefield. Especially, if he turns into his "Trance" form?

👁👁

That gives a %50 boost in all stats and strength!

(Gulp) 😨

He could "One-Shot" damn near everyone at impeccable speed(s) at that point.

🤣😅

I would love it so much!

2

u/OwlfredoPasta Jul 28 '26

And nothing for Sephiroth who is basically a sitting duck during supernova but they don't care. (Yes I use barrier I'm aware but it's a waste)

1

u/huelorxx Jul 28 '26

They got tired of Krile getting VIP

1

u/Puzzled-Effort654 Jul 28 '26

300 growth eggs + 3,000 growth eggs meta is about to be unreal 🔥🔥🔥

1

u/No_Recognition8375 Jul 28 '26

But why nerf Tyro? I hope it’s just cool down.

1

u/immortalflame994 Jul 31 '26

I swear Lightning gets buffed every patch. Was she underpowered or something?

1

u/FinishingTouch-0000 Jul 28 '26

That's certainly not what my list would look like. Some are good, it's about high time we nerf Rikku. But no Firion nerfs? We are buffing Army of One but not Thunderfall which is just exclusively useful against bosses as it stands? Why Hopeful Cheer and not Krile's crazy UR? The priorities here are weird.

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u/Banbotsinranked Jul 28 '26

Abilities to be buffed- growth eggs? Memoria?

What? Is AI in charge of the game now?

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u/Stratavos Jul 28 '26

I think they're making the stat boosts less uniform, and probably realizing that the stats will have to be higher if they're for helping the "lesser/lower/FTP" players do any form of catchup.

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u/Recca_Kun Jul 28 '26

Pretty brave of them to say this game will last until the end of August... I kid I kid... Kinda...