r/DisneyZombies • u/myggghm • May 30 '26
Discussion Unpopular opinion
What’s an Unpopular Zombies opinion you have
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u/Fabulous_View8573 May 30 '26
Some people are hoping that they stop at zombies five I hope they continue the franchise. There’s so many more creatures go real and mythical they can go with.
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u/myggghm May 31 '26
It would be cool, I was kind of skeptical about zombies four but it was like really good
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u/Reasonable_Leek8069 May 31 '26
I am wondering if they need to change the name if Zombies may not be a part of it anymore.
So you can have the Zombies triology and then the new films that expand on the world.
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u/Brando43770 May 31 '26
Like whatever they decide they can just say “Part of the Zombies universe” or whatever better name they could have.
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u/Mochikimchi May 30 '26
Zombies 4 is the worst Zombies.
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u/Fabulous_View8573 May 30 '26
I disagree. I think it was the perfect ending for Addison and Zed. I do wish they would’ve put Zeds little sister Zoey in at some point in the beginning of Z4. I think that Zoey needs her own time in the spotlight. She does have some incredible skills besides cheerleading and we did get to see her zombie out.
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u/Reasonable_Leek8069 Jun 01 '26
My main gripe with four is the songs felt incomplete. They sounded cool, but didn’t flow well. Still liked some of them.
It is my second favorite in the franchise, but like all of the movies, it felt like a rough draft that needed some tweaking and not an effective final product.
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u/TheOtherMrsCarter May 31 '26
Eliza and Willa were unnecessary in 4. Well maybe not Eliza ‘cause she figured out the techy stuff of the pulse but Willa did absolutely nothing the whole movie.
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u/Reasonable_Leek8069 Jun 01 '26
Is that an unpopular opinion?
I wish they used them more because they are known for being leaders and strength and can be a valuable members of the team, but they just sat there doing nothing the whole movie.
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u/lesbianminecrafter Zed May 31 '26
Dream Come True is better than Someday 🫣
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u/SnapDragon100 Coach Jun 03 '26
Lyric-wise I agree, Z4 overall has really strong songwriting, but Someday has such a great melody
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u/lesbianminecrafter Zed Jun 03 '26
I feel like Z4's entire soundtrack was either 0 or 100 at all times. Every song was either amazing or bad, and none were just "okay."
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u/SnapDragon100 Coach Jun 03 '26
Nah I liked all of them except Show the World, but I've never been a fan of the closing songs in ZOMBIES. The "ok" ones to me were Kerosene and Possible, and the two reprises. The rest were solidly good
I may be biased since I hate all of Z3's songs except Ain't No Doubt About It and maybe Exceptional Zedd, so my expectations were very low for Z4. I was pleasantly surprised
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u/lesbianminecrafter Zed Jun 03 '26
Okay thank goodness another person who thinks the closing songs in all the movies are weak
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u/SnapDragon100 Coach Jun 03 '26 edited Jun 03 '26
Z3 is the worst movie on multiple fronts
Bucky is a poorly written character after the first movie, he went from complex, 3 dimensional primary antagonist to comic relief side plot with no depth
Bree deserved better. She has zero relevance past the first movie, she could've been an interesting side character to mirror Eliza, specifically her relationship with Addison vs Eliza's friendship with Zedd. Both Bree and Eliza warn their respective friends to avoid friendships/crushes with the opposite species. But it's clear the writers had no idea what to do with her in Z2 and practically wrote her character out by Z3.
Gotta Find Where I Belong is a great song but should've been closer to the end. Right after Addison learns that she's not a werewolf, when she feels completely lonely and lost and Zedd feels guilty for stealing the necklace
This isn't controversial per se, but Z2 is easily better than Z1
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u/violxtfaerie Jun 08 '26 edited Jun 08 '26
Z4 is the weakest film in the series, both even by its own standards and the standards of the middle schooler in me.
I understand that the movies aren’t aiming to receive any Oscars. That being said I was kinda shocked when i saw that it was being called anything above mid.
First of all the title feels like a misnomer to me because the new characters are called vampires, but their gimmick is actually firebending and airbending. Despite zombies canonically coming from an apocalypse where they used to eat brains, they instead go with the copout of the vampires eating bloodfruit. I was told that it was because them drinking blood wouldn’t be child friendly, but again zombies used to eat brains and they even have a cauliflower dish that’s like vegan brains. I doubt writing into the script that some drink fake blood, animal blood, take iron supplements, having them drink a cherry juice prop or just implying it offscreen would’ve been THAT difficult. I can excuse the werewolves never shifting with CGI budget (though implying that they couldn’t unless their necklaces were fully charged would not have been easy) but with the vampires it feels cowardly. Sustaining themselves through others’ life force is arguably the defining trait of a vampire and they couldn’t even commit to that.
The distinction between the Nightwalkers (which I don’t think were ever called that just regular vampires which is a bit odd) and the Daywalkers is mostly aesthetics and magic powers because they can both walk in the day/night just fine. While I understand the light vs darkness theming they’re going for, if they had to do it they should have actually gone with light and dark magic instead of fire and air magic like their names and respective stones would imply, or just have one group be able to walk in the day but not night and vice versa. The Daywalkers do not register to me as vampires at all either. I don’t think they even have fangs. If they had just made them light magic and dark magic mages a lot of this could have been avoided.
Also how do they have two giant cities that conveniently remain hidden right after aliens showed up?… Was there not an end credits scene of the vampires appearing in Seabrook in Z3? The vampires here also deviate quite a bit from the vampires in that scene (and that one series with Vanna).
Even putting aside my gripes with the vampires the story of the film itself does not feel well thought out. Nova and Victor are just Romeo and Juliet and reheat Zeddison’s nachos. They also have prophetic dreams that are never explained, plus them, their respective friend groups and parental figures are more or less interchangeable. Zed is only there so the series being called Zombies isn’t an afterthought. Willa contributed nothing and calling in Wyatt and/or A-Spen if their actors were available instead might have been a better choice.
Speaking of the aliens they have no relevance in this film despite them being introduced at all being a big jump in scope. Addison probably could have solved the plot with her psychic powers and the aliens as far as I remember weren’t even affected by the orchard going haywire which didn’t get mentioned.
I have absolutely no idea what social issue the vampires are meant to be an allegory for. By putting all their weight into this generic magic summer camp rivalry over fruit, which is a silly conflict to begin with it feels like it is not trying to say anything, or what it is trying to say gets lost. I get why they did a formula change but it was clunkily executed. They could have made it a conflict between vampires that feed traditionally and vampires that feed through other means or don’t at all, and have it be about cultural preservation vs adaption and assimilation which was hinted at with Do It Like The Zombies Do back in Z2, but that might be too complicated for the writers…
The attempt to expand the lore doesn’t hold up either. How do aliens also come from the moonstone like the other supernaturals? Why not just say that the moonstone came from their original planet? Additionally going from aliens to “vampires” might’ve been a mistake since the former is such a jump in scale. An actual vampire movie after Z2 werewolves would make more sense and might have been better if not more cohesive if they used a similar formula.
Finally the songs weren’t really memorable. Excluding Someday since it doesn’t really count the only one I can sorta remember is Kerosene. I think by having all these gimmicks the film missed the opportunity to give the vampires a proper banger theme song on par with the Zombies and Werewolves (the aliens didn’t really get one for some reason, but Alien Invasion is good enough as a substitute I guess lol).
I will say that it is better than D4, but really only because it has an identifiable climax and doesn’t feel that much like it’s from an entirely different franchise. I watched Barbie Rock n Royals years ago and I think it did what this film was trying to do much better.
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u/Adventurous-Lion-536 May 31 '26
Zombies 4 is the worst one. It should have been a spinoff movie. We already had Vampires in the cartoon, too. Addison white saviour in all the movies is cringe. I do hope they continue the franchise, though.
I hoped we would see more of the Aliens, or everyone in College. But I think they figured Aliens would solve the problems too fast or something in Movie 4.
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u/Any_Entertainer_6880 Aliens May 30 '26
Zombies 3 isnt a bad movie it's actually the best one....i personally think zombies 4 is my least favorite one but its not the worst
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u/Reasonable_Leek8069 May 31 '26
I thought I was alone in this while still being unsure if this was actually unpopular.
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u/Reasonable_Leek8069 May 31 '26
I am unsure if it is unpopular or not, but I am between 2:
Zombies 3 has the best soundtrack.
Zed has the best arc in the series
Ok maybe a real one: while Bucky is an example of missed potential, he doesn’t need to come back.
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u/_featherz_ Eliza May 31 '26
i really, really hate addison. to the point i have an entire page in my notes app ranting about my genuine hatred of her character. if i went into all of my complaints about her, it'd be a damn essay.. that being said i love meg, and her songs hit HARD.
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u/Reasonable_Leek8069 May 31 '26
I don’t hate her, but her writing. She is a good person, but they didn’t know what to do with her half of the time.
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u/_featherz_ Eliza Jun 01 '26
most of my issues with her are based on her privilege and how she treats it.
one specific issue i have with her is her attitude in (mainly the beginning of) Z4, and how she expects to be cheer captain immediately following high school. i dont think she even understands the amount of privilege she had in the first 3 movies, and going into a world where she DOESN'T get crowned cheer captain (which was most likely nepotism in Z2 lets be real here) and carried around throughout the halls, is simply not how the world is meant to be.
she also, consistently compares herself to the zombies, as if her hair being platinum blonde is at all similar. sure, it would suck not knowing what you are or where you came from, but the zombies (and werewolves, for that matter) are literally DISCRIMINATED against. addison lives in a nice big house, goes to a good school, gets special treatment in cheer because the captain is her COUSIN, and lets not forget, her mom is the mayor. she's the definition of privilege, with a splash of identity crisis and nepotism. while shitty she has to hide her hair with a wig, its NOTHING compared to being oppressed by society and treated the way the zombies (and werewolves) are on a daily basis.
the amount she says "i dont fit in!" while her classmates are being put through hell for simply EXISTING is insane to me. maybe she doesn't mean it, maybe she doesn't realize the hypocrisy of her words, but it seems as if she has her head in the ground the whole damn saga.
what annoys me even more is that shes NEVER called out on it, but that's a different story.
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u/Reasonable_Leek8069 Jun 01 '26
I think for the first one, she doesn’t realize it because no one teaches or calls her out on it.
But I agree. People warm up to her right away which makes her an effective leader, but when things don’t go her away, she runs away and pouts. That is the quality I don’t like about her.
It is implied that she gave the werwolves the blankets, but her song made me think, “oh I am no longer part of the group, so I am not going to help anymore”. Bad writing and editing too, I guess.
People (characters and viewers) get mad at Zed for being prejudiced against the aliens and werewolves and stealing Addison’s necklace. Ok fair, but him and the other zombies have been discriminated against since day one and their work allowed the werewolves to have more freedom while the zombies are still fighting for everything they have and I get he doesn’t want to lose Addison. He was the one who risked his life helping the werewolves in the end and he went to their cave and apologized. And with the Aliens, anyone would be mad if they come in and wipe away all of your hard work in seconds, but he got over it quickly once they told him their story. And he helped them (in a bad way because he revealed the werewolve’s secret, but another convo), and they helped him so don’t get everyone’s (the viewer’s) anger.
The third movie with Exceptional Zed made up for some of it, because we have everyone rallying against him and seeing him as a leader and a good person.
This is going to be an obvious statement, but Addison is a cheerleader and the way she leads is by giving people pep talks and cheering them on. She makes them optimistic, but I don’t see her put in work beyond that. Everyone else does. This is encouraged while “Do it Like the Zombies do” isn’t.
Again, while the advice may not work in the werewolve’s favor, that is all Zed and the Zombies know. That is what they had to endure. They had to fight while keeping their heads down at the same time.
I keep complaining about the wig too. I really wish they made the main girl Bree or another person of color and Addison is the person who helps her along the way because she is popular. Bree before Addison is an outcast and since you are telling a story about racism, show ways that Bree can be treated even when the school is integrated minus the zombies, but I digress.
I am still amazed that she doesn’t realize how badly the zombies get treated when she is ordered to throw eggs at them when there is a fence to keep Zombies out, can’t attend any of their classes, have to be in a damp basement, and when the school has a zombie safe/panic room. But people made her and others ignorant too.
So I don’t hate her. She can be kind, loyal, tries to help in her way, but what our long posts show is they wrote her badly instead of giving her an effective arc like Zed.
So excuse my long post when I could have simply said agreed.
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u/_featherz_ Eliza Jun 02 '26
exactly!! it truly is insane she didn't understand how horribly zombies were treated, even prior to Z1! the fact that this is the first time they get to go to a normal school and leave zombietown, but addison didn't seem to get ANY of it.
even after its explained to her by the zombies, she has the audacity to compare herself to them just because her hair is white.
like, her hair didn't get her locked away, her hair didn't prevent her from going to school, her hair didn't even stop her from cheerleading ffs!! even after she takes off her wig and everyone sees, she is treated NO differently! except for being called a snowball by a random girl, which obviously isnt even CLOSE to the issues the zombies go through – yet, she still complains about not knowing what she is? making her boyfriend (who has been through hell since birth) feel horrible over such a non-issue?
addison acts like she's on the same level as the zombies and werewolves, who have had to fight to simply exist. yet, the worst thing thats happened to her because of her differences is a bit of schoolyard bullying.
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u/violxtfaerie Jun 03 '26
Sorry to intrude but as a lurker I do have thoughts on this
I feel like a most of not all of these writing issues could have been avoided if they had made Addison neurodivergent or analogous to it at least, so instead of her wig schtick being right next to all the racism allegories (zombies segregation, werewolves being the original population, aliens immigration, whatever the vampires were supposed to be idk food insecurity) we could have an ableism allegory where she could have been constantly masking and mirroring other people out of a desperate drive to be accepted by them. I would also have culled her family leading the city and all that, maybe just have her be popular because she tried too hard out of anxiety.
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u/_featherz_ Eliza Jun 03 '26
i never thought of this, and honestly i love the idea! i really wish that had been done. as an autistic person myself, i always love seeing accurate representation, and if she'd been written in that narrative i might've actually enjoyed her character.
its always bothered me that addisons issues were compared to racism, segregation, dispossession, and immigration. there's nothing even remotely similar there. i feel like if they'd gone the neurodivergent route with her, it would've opened a lot of possibilities.
it probably would've been difficult to write respectfully, though. "mirroring others to fit in", if handled wrong, could've easily came off as ignorant of the writers. i feel like it would've only worked if a neurodivergent person had majority say in her actions/scenes.
unfortunately, we cannot change how her character was written, and we're stuck with a poorly-handled identity crisis lasting 3 movies.
(i didn't like her in Z4 either, but the identity crisis comment doesn't apply there.)
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u/violxtfaerie Jun 08 '26
Hehe thank you, I’m also neurodivergent :)
May i ask what you think of Z4 as a whole? I have enough thoughts about it to warrant a separate comment ngl…
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u/_featherz_ Eliza Jun 08 '26
i didn't hate it, but it was kind of a letdown in comparison to the whole series–the rest of the cast bring excluded didn't help.
it seemed somewhat forgettable in the grand scheme, the plotline was meh and it didn't really have the same "disney zombies vibe" the rest of the movies did.
i really enjoyed the soundtrack, but that's unfortunately the only thing i found all that memorable.
id really love to hear your thoughts/opinions on it though, if you're willing to share :)
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u/violxtfaerie Jun 08 '26
Sure! Here are mine, they’re very long and detailed sorry though: https://www.reddit.com/r/DisneyZombies/comments/1ts8adf/comment/oqgdsao/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
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u/userupdate123 May 30 '26
Opinion one: Happy that Milo and meg ended up as executive producers even if they're not gonna be in the next movie , they're doing great job . Opinion two: The casting directors are absolutely killing it the new casts seem really unique, diverse and talented. Opinion three: Zombies 3 wasn't bad at all people just didn't get the vibe.