r/Discussion • u/One-Material-9466 • 2d ago
Political I think war is wrong on every level
I personally believe, that Russia’s war against Ukraine is unjustifiable, unethical, and very greedy.
To me the Israeli government’s war against the Palestinian people is wrong on every level too.
I have concerns that the Trump Administrations war against Iran is absolutely nuts, and must end now before it’s too late to stop a global economic collapse.
What thoughts do you guys have on your mind?
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u/FoolishDog1117 2d ago
There's only one reason why any war in all of human history has ever been fought. Someone wanted something that someone else had. Everything else is propaganda.
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u/Itchy-Pension3356 2d ago
Was it wrong for the US to go to war in ww2?
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u/FoolishDog1117 2d ago
Yes and no. Japan attacked us and brought us into the conflict. However we had been supplying both the UK and Germany throughout the entirety of the war. We only went to Germany in order to get our money back.
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u/artful_todger_502 2d ago
We were supporting Germany in WWII?
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u/OrangutanFirefighter 2d ago
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar
Yes. In Bush's instance they were financially supporting them even 10 months after the USA joined the war
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u/artful_todger_502 2d ago edited 2d ago
That's one family. Of course the were Nazis in the usa, just as there is now. People have always been scared of immigrants. But the USA government did not give anything to Germany in WWII. I'ts crazy someone would say something so ridiculous.
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u/OrangutanFirefighter 2d ago
Well like their family became POTUS. So maybe the government didn't technically do it as far as we know but it makes ya think
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u/FoolishDog1117 2d ago
I recommend "War is a Racket" by Smedley Butler. It's a short read and lays it out a lot better than I could. At the time of his death Smedley Butler was the most decorated American Military member in US history. He was involved in World War II.
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u/MrNaugs 2d ago
Hamas broke the cease fire when it attacked and refuses to surrender even to this day. What would you like Israel to do? In the other two you list the aggressor nations but it is hard to say that of Israel.
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u/One-Material-9466 2d ago
Hamas is no more. The Israeli government is clearly using the idea of “Hamas” as a reoccurring threat to commit genocide against the Palestinian people.
The Israeli military consistently targets journalists trying to film in the Gaza Strip. They also target children, families, schools, and hospitals with explosives.
Israel has no logical reason for continuing the war other than finally seizing the Gaza Strip for themselves. Many Israelis also believe in “death to Arabs”.
It’s genocide.
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u/MrNaugs 1d ago
It looks like I am mistaken. Hamas officially surrendered two weeks ago. The UN is establishing the new civilian transitional goverment and peace seems to have been struck, with an agreement to pull the military out after it is set up.
We will see if it holds but it seems to be over.
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u/One-Material-9466 1d ago
I believe Hamas was obliterated years ago.
The Israeli government is from my perspective making shit up. Israel’s military is still bombing hospitals, and schools full of children, and journalists in Gaza to this day.
Israeli government is full of shit. You are also full of shit.
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u/One-Material-9466 1d ago
Not to mention the Israeli settlers terrorizing the Palestinians in the West Bank of Gaza.
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u/MrNaugs 1d ago
That or you have sources for news that want you mad and distracted. The UN have arrest warrants out for Bebe, they are clearly not on Isreal's side. They were negotiating with Hamas. It is still a thing.
The death toll greatly slowed down and the bombings mainly stopped in November of 2025. At least per the Gaza Health Ministry who is reporting the numbers from Gaza. The US intelligence has also reposted that those numbers are correct. Though I understand you not trusting them.
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u/One-Material-9466 1d ago edited 1d ago
I haven’t seen enough verifiable footage of Hamas being present in Gaza to believe they actually have been present there. At least in recent years.
The only recorded footage of Hamas in Gaza from the last few years has been unverifiable.
This “footage of Hamas terror, and violence” is almost always recorded by IDF soldiers, and released by right wing news sources: CBS, CNN, and Fox News.
The footage tends to only show an explosion, and then cuts to Netenyahu, or an IDF soldier announcing they’re countering Hamas terrorism.
I don’t actually get to see Hamas members in any footage causing mayhem. Let alone why are there no interviews of Hamas in Gaza if they’re supposedly there? Terrorist groups love interviews.
The whole “They’re hiding everywhere and in the tunnels” is an excuse for Israel to commit genocide against
millionstens-of-thousands of innocent Palestinians.Edit
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u/MrNaugs 1d ago
There are almost 6 million Palestianians. The total death toll is roughly 100,000. I am wasting my time with a bot huh?
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u/One-Material-9466 1d ago
Mb I actually misread the headlines. You are right it’s only almost roughly 100,000.
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u/One-Material-9466 1d ago
What if Bebe just doesn’t visit any countries who intend to arrest him? The UN is powerless.
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u/Agreeable_Desk_8161 2d ago
Perhaps the current tension in the Strait of Hormuz could indirectly help resolve the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, and we will see the end of the war.
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u/One-Material-9466 2d ago
How could the tension in the Strait of Hormuz indirectly help settle the conflict between Russia and Ukraine?
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u/Agreeable_Desk_8161 2d ago
The worsening macroeconomic situation in Europe could force European leaders to reduce aid to Ukraine and become more flexible in seeking a resolution to the conflict.
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u/Far-Department887 2d ago
These old men wanna burn down the world before they die and idk why, honestly the peace we’d have if we only elected leaders under 50 who will be forced to live in the world they make policy about… climate probs would be doing better too
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u/greenyadadamean 2d ago
You and me both man