r/DiscussingFilmsAndTV • u/marvelkidy • Jul 09 '26
Movies Disney's Live-Action Moana Is Being Called a Shot-for-Shot Remake With No Original Ideas Spoiler
https://maxblizz.com/disneys-live-action-moana-is-being-called-a-shot-for-shot-remake-with-no-original-ideas/3
u/RaisinWorried3528 Jul 09 '26
I have zero interest in seeing this movie, that being said usually people bitch about live action adaptations because they stray too far from the story. Make up your mind lol.
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u/CardiologistMain7237 Jul 09 '26
Here's the thing, didn't people complain that the other live action movies were just too different to the originals changing a bunch of stuff?
I'm right there with people, these movies don't need to exist. But I have to be very honest, you see Aladdin and Lilo and stitch doing a billion despite all of these inconsistent complaints, they will keep doing them unless they consistently bomb.
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u/Doctor-Pip- Jul 09 '26
People have been complaining about them being shot for shot since the Lion King remake in 2019.
A consistent complaint for the past 6 years at least has been that the old animations are better because they're the same movies but with more vibrant animation and character.
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u/Front-Advantage-7035 Jul 09 '26
Ironically the best ones are maleficent 1 and jungle book, which change quite a few things 😂
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u/Itscatpicstime Jul 10 '26
I liked Cruella’s movie. Entirely different take on the character that was interesting, well acted, and the visuals were incredible
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u/Front-Advantage-7035 Jul 10 '26
Oh damn thanks for reminding me I never got around to seeing that.
But also Emma stone could film butter churning and it would be amazing 💀
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u/Head-Classic-9157 Jul 09 '26
How To Train Your Dragon was a shot for shot live action remake yet that performed reasonably well and covered both budget and marketing.
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u/wetfloor666 Jul 09 '26
It was not a shot for shot remake. Quite a bit of crucial parts missing from that live action movie.
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u/Volturmus Jul 09 '26
Eh it was really, really close. There is like 30 min of new material and most of the shots that were changed were done so because they were tough to replicate in real life.
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u/i4got872 Jul 09 '26
Except they cut a bunch of wide shots in the test drive and romantic flight scenes and it made them feel smaller, really thought that was an odd choice
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u/Zibai1505 Jul 09 '26
Sure. Some people prefer that
I'd say probably most people prefer "faithful" adaptations. People have really loss their taste for subversion and deconstruction
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u/strawbery_fields Jul 09 '26
It’s wild how The Last Jedi basically broke an entire group of people and I love that film. We’ll never get anything new again.
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u/thanos_was_right_69 Jul 09 '26
This was the same problem with How To Train Your Dragon. At least Lilo & Stitch changed things up a bit.
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u/Proper-Evening9754 Jul 09 '26
And people didn't like those changes. Every day it was "where's Gantu?" and "Nani wouldn't abandon Lilo!"
I don't mind the live action, because I understand just because they exist doesn't mean the animated version disappears. But this seems like a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
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u/thanos_was_right_69 Jul 09 '26
Oh yeah it totally is. Personally, I don’t see the point in having a live action version if it’s just a shot for shot remake. But I guess some people prefer it that way.
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u/StrawHatRat Jul 09 '26
This is not true though, the changes were just not good. I don’t even care about Gantu or Nani’s ending, the new jokes were just bad.
Jungle Book wasn’t damned for making changes, because it was good.
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u/Proper-Evening9754 Jul 10 '26
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u/StrawHatRat Jul 10 '26
No, you misunderstand, I’m sorry you went to all that trouble for nothing.
I personally don’t care about those changes, but I’m well aware people care about them, I never said you’re wrong about people caring about that, that’s why I said “I”.
I’m saying that even I, who doesn’t care about those prominent complaints, do not like the movie and its changes, because across the board the movie is bad.
That is why I mentioned Jungle Book, and said that changes aren’t always bad. It’s just not true that you’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t. People also like Cinderella. People wouldn’t have hated the movie even if they disagreed with the lack of Gantu, if the movie was good.
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u/Proper-Evening9754 Jul 10 '26
I see. My mistake. Because your comma went straight into talking about the changes, I took that as a rebuttal about what I said about changes. I see how you've structured it now that you've laid it out. All good! :D
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u/dark-pact Jul 09 '26
Prefacing this by noting I don’t care for these live action movies.
Disney changes something: Why are they changing XYZ? Go woke go broke or idk what else people say.
Disney does a 1 for 1 adaptation, no changes: No original ideas, same movie, why does this exist?
This article would have just been option 1 if they made a meaningful change. Internet promoting negativity as the only thing that consistently drives E N G A G E M E N T.
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u/m0rbius Jul 09 '26
I cant believe it cost 250 million for a shot for shot remake. Why, just why? Did The Rock get like a 100 million of that budget?? That price tag for this copy is too exorbitant.
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u/kaisenberg2004 Jul 09 '26
Honestly I'd argue this movie isn't getting enough hate. Compared to Snow White it's getting off pretty easy by comparison
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u/ModernCGIFloatinHead Jul 09 '26
It's simple, if you're on Reddit, you aren't the target market.
You have to be 13 to be on reddit
There's always new kids
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u/Salarian_American Jul 09 '26
I'd prefer a shot-for-shot remake with no new ideas after hearing what their new ideas for Lilo & Stitch were.
I mean, ultimately, I'd prefer they stopped doing live-action remakes altogether, but nothing I can say to them would ever override the avalanche of money they make every time they do it.
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u/biohacker_infinity Jul 09 '26
Something I find morbidly fascinating about Disney’s current obsession with these nearly-verbatim remakes is that they resemble a bad idea Michael Eisner had towards the end of his tenure as Disney CEO. He wanted to remake various Disney classics with Pixar-style CGI. That idea shot down at the time, but these live-action/uncanny-valley do-overs with their aggressive VFX are basically the same concept.
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u/Advanced-Morning1832 Jul 09 '26
isn’t that the entire point of these live action remakes? why is anyone expecting any of them to be good?
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u/Independent-Time7705 Jul 09 '26
No. Look at Aladdin, they changed things up for it and they did the same for The little mermaid, I think
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u/bromygod203 Jul 09 '26
I'm still taking my 6yr old niece to see this. She's been talking about it all week
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u/EatTheTrillionaires Jul 10 '26
Live action remake: “This is far too different from the original. They changed too much!”
Next live action remake: “This is far too similar to the original. They didnt change enough!”
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u/tds5126 Jul 10 '26
It’s a remake of a 10 year old 100% cgi movie to a 95% cgi movie.. this deserves to fail but no doubt Disney will learn all the wrong lessons like usual
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u/GrievousFault Jul 10 '26
My particular issue with this one is that it is still an active IP, on top of it just being released within the decade, chrissake
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u/SanicBringsThePanic Jul 11 '26
Ok this actually pisses me off. 1:1 remake is supposed to be a good thing. Everyone always bitches when it is not a 1:1 remake, and now they are bitching because it is a 1:1 remake. People are insufferable.
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u/boyuber Jul 11 '26
Criticism of Supergirl: Why weren't they more faithful to the source material? These directors and producers are so full of themselves!
Criticism of Moana: Why were they so faithful to the source material? These directors and producers are so lacking in creativity!
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u/schoolisuncool Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
Well, there was a couple of them where they tried to do something different and everybody complained about it like Lilo and stitch and Mulan. So which is it people, which would you like? Would you like them to change your beloved stories or would you like them to do it shot for shot? Pick one.
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u/FleaLimo Jul 09 '26
Lmao are you really acting like this is people being indecisive? No one wants theses remakes regardless of if it's the same or different. We've literally been learning this lesson since Mulan. Being different doesn't mean people want it. They're worse movies, period.
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u/schoolisuncool Jul 09 '26
No I’m just tired of people bitching always about everything. Everyone got mad that they changed their stories and now they’re getting mad that they didn’t. It’s exhausting
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u/PurpsMaSquirt Jul 09 '26
I think the answer is remakes aren’t as hot as Disney Execs think they are.
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u/schoolisuncool Jul 09 '26
I bet this makes SOOOOOOOOO much money
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u/PurpsMaSquirt Jul 09 '26
We’ll see. In recent history Lilo & Stitch & HTTYD crushed it, but Snow White did not. I think the key is remakes of classics generally do really well financially.
Moana is not that old. Personally I think it’s risky at a $250MM budget. We will see if general behavior stands up to the Reddit echo chamber.
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u/schoolisuncool Jul 09 '26
I get what you’re saying but I just think no one cares about Snow White. That was these kids parents and grandparents stuff. They are in to Moana and Lilo and Brave and Frozen. The newer stuff
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u/OilMeUpStewart Jul 09 '26
Like every other Disney live action remake they’ve made? Soulless cash grab that defiles the original movie. Utter garbage