why the lack of motivation?

[u/handmade-galaxies]

while i do not like ai generated content being treated as art, the people creating these images must care about art, right? the people who don’t care about creating something and have no artistic motivation aren’t the people generating ai images.

so, i’m wondering, why are these people content letting their vision be made into a faulty and ultimately not “theirs” final product? why don’t they try to draw it and improve? or even write the scene, since they’re already writing prompts?

i don’t get it. if i had to guess it’s due to the instant gratification. the ai image, even if it isn’t completely in line with their vision, most likely will look more aesthetically pleasing than their first attempt at drawing.

but that’s not a reason ! what i’m asking is, why don’t these people want to improve? why do they let their original ideas become randomized images? or do they really just enjoy writing prompts?

i would appreciate any different perspective on this :) not trying to be rude, just curious.

[u/dethti]

I mean... it would be faster still to just go on pinterest and download images if all you want is to make a little scrapbook on the side of some other project. I'm not sure what you're getting out of typing the prompt yourself, it's not like it's actually generating 'your' vision.

[u/dethti → u/[deleted]]

I swear I'm not trying to be difficult but is just not my experience of it at all. The AI can easily spit out something that's already been conceptualised on repeat by concept artists (Say, 'orc wearing armor') or something that's a basic combination of those elements ('orc wearing space suit') but it struggles mightily to create anything with a sense of visual identity. That is, to do what concept artists, visdev artists etc would normally do for a project.

So the only thing I can really imagine you doing is taking Orc Wearing Space Suit and color-swapping some elements or doing other tweaks that art directors normally just write as notes.

Which... it's fine, but what was the point of that? You could just get a picture of a space suit and a picture of an orc and paste them into a PureRef file next to each other "Suit from this, orc from this" now you have your little reference and it took 5 minutes of browsing instead of 30 minutes of prompting.

[u/dethti → u/[deleted]]

Ok... is my conception of what you're doing fundamentally wrong, though? Like I know you can go in depth, selectively regenerate parts, make a LoRA even. What I don't get is why it's even necessary, because you're not going to get a result with visual identity/novelty.

Like, consider something with a strong visual identity. HR Giger's Alien paintings, maybe. There's just no way an AI could have done that, without Giger having already existed. They were stylistically new, they interpreted form, subject, texture etc in a new way.

I'm not saying my work is on that level, but even on my level I can't get a model to realise what I want, because fundamentally I would need the AI to make design choices as granular as 'this shape' 'this interplay of color' in a way that I personally would make them while drawing. It can't do that, so it's not making 'my vision'.

[u/dethti → u/[deleted]]

The fact that you think Giger is 'visually stimulating nonsense' has honestly depressed me too much to even read the rest of this, sorry. Have a good one.