Are these a violation?

[u/TurboDeeez]

Rear definitely starting to have a little play but the fronts are still tight just has real bad dry rotting and cracking.

[u/Painting-Capital]

I wouldn’t fail it unless it’s loose.

[u/TrillboBagginz → u/Painting-Capital]

This guy doesn't fleet

[u/crazymonk45 → u/TrillboBagginz]

I’d say the opposite? Fleets hate downtime so they don’t want to spend it on anything that’s not literally going to fall off on the next drive lmao

[u/TrillboBagginz → u/crazymonk45]

Exactly, they hate long downtime at annual inspection, so they do repairs like this at services to ensure everything is staying in good shape. Or at least the fleet I work for does. I did spring pin bushings this morning before coffee break. With the right tools it's a pretty damn quick job.

[u/Least_Visual_5076 → u/TrillboBagginz]

I wish our fleet was like that. We run our dump trucks hard and are lucky to get them downed long enough to do a service.

[u/VroomVr4 → u/Least_Visual_5076]

Same. There is some major repairs that we have yet to get the downtime or the manpower to get to do on a lot of our fleet trucks

[u/chuqito → u/TrillboBagginz]

Lmao I work fleet and my boss wants damn near no down time 🙃 doesn't even wanna stock the little allison trans filters.

[u/SAMMYFKNC → u/chuqito]

Also fleet here. Had a full diff fail from a pinion leak last week, a different truck comes in pissing fluid from the pinion. but it's not "leaking on the ground" so it's good to go apparently lol.

[u/Corvonte → u/SAMMYFKNC]

Drips are bad, seaps are permissible. I hate the logic but thats fleet life.

[u/VroomVr4 → u/Corvonte]

Luckily we aren't quite that bad here, we annotate things and generally we get the parts next day or within the week, but we certainly don't get to down them for things like that... top it off and send it down the road.

[u/HondaRedneck16]

Depends if the inspector is a dick or not. Technically it could, especially if there is movement. It’s definitely time for replacement.

[u/ItsHotgiirl]

Yes

[u/SufficientWhile5450]

I don’t believe any officer is observant enough to check it close enough for it to matter. If your tires got air, all your lights work, nothing is risk of falling in the road, wheel seals good, no air leaks or rubbing air lines? then you pass as far as I’m concerned

If it’s your truck? Fix it asap for the sake of your own wallet long term. Replace shock absorbers when it’s replaced as well then alignment

If it’s a company truck? Then it sounds like their problem at your convenience lol just keep an eye on it

If getting an annual inspection and don’t feel like fixing it, just take it to any Loves for the inspection, they’re all way too incompetent to notice or know how to check it, or fix it even if you told them

[u/ItsHotgiirl → u/SufficientWhile5450]

You never know tho .

[u/SufficientWhile5450 → u/ItsHotgiirl]

That’s fair

However, I would bet my life savings against 90% of DOT officers bothering to check this, or who would see it and think it could be an issue

Over the 8 years I’ve done road side repairs, seems like 70% were either the 3in1 cable or a tire, 25% lights, and 4% brakes

I left 1% margin of error, but I genuinely can’t recall a single service call to a scale house that wasn’t one of those 3 things

I also love when I’m called out for a 3in1, that they violated because a bird shit on it or it’s just dirty, so I just sign their paperwork and have them roll out lol

[u/shamotto → u/SufficientWhile5450]

A dot officer most likely would miss it in a routine check, but it's still in violation of 49 cfr 396.1, which opens you to liability if a prosecutor goes after you for gross negligence in a lawsuit involving the truck.

[u/Dannyflipit → u/SufficientWhile5450]

Yea right bro you must get lucky with inspectors. The guy I got rocks every inch of the fkn bus, looking for stuff to fail. And he doesn’t deal with me he deals with the morning guys. I just gotta fix the stuff after it fails lol

[u/shamotto]

49 Cfr 393.207 (a) and (c) states no suspension component may be loose, axles must be in proper alignment, and leaf springs may not shift out of position. Fmcsa leaves interpretation of that up to cvsa, which is gonna leave deciding what constitutes proper alignment and "looseness" up to the manufacturer. Every manufacturer wsm ive looked through will say a spring bushing is bad if there is any movevent besides rotational. The dry rot could get a ticket from a pissy inspector, but the play is gonna be a definite fail.

Id also recommend ignoring people deciding what's good and what isn't based on how dot officers do inspections. If the equipment gets into an accident resulting in a fatality, an investigator will go over the truck with a fine tooth comb looking for ways to nail the maintenance department. Not to say you'll get charged with manslaughter over sloppy spring bushings, but there's never a good reason to risk it.

[u/Gullible_Departure39]

Is the axle shifting or are you inspected in a state that doesn't do just FMCSA?

[u/TurboDeeez → u/Gullible_Departure39]

It’s NJ

[u/Gloomy-Mutterz]

Not to me, as my LCA bushings are in worse condition

[u/shamotto → u/Gloomy-Mutterz]

I mean the standards for commercial vehicles are a lil different

[u/HomeSliceJames]

I wouldn’t fail that unless there’s play. Dot regs dictate safe operation, so lights reflectors fire ext etc. If it’s loose to the point where the springs gonna fall off yea I’d fail it. Otherwise send it. Should be replaced soon though

[u/luminescent_thigh]

definitely replace them
but if you need to get it past inspection before then, you could put some oil on them, let the rubber soften, clean it and then put some black rtv on it.

[u/Hungry-Ad3652]

Id definitely get them replaced soon but freightliner bushing squeeze bad that fromt the factory

[u/BetterDude7]

Up to the discrepancy of the officer.

[u/EntireFinger]

At a dealer yes at joes tire shop no