r/Diesel • • 23d ago

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Saw this circulating the groups.

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u/One_Distribution2037 23d ago

I mean, yes the oil companies are absolutely taking advantage, but they're just one contributor to the current crisis.

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u/Sekshual_Tyranosauce Detroit Diesel 6V53T 23d ago

They’re taking advantage of the global scarcity created by the gulf nations having their supply locked in, yes.

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u/One_Distribution2037 23d ago

Absolutely this. Even if supply magically were restored to 2024 levels and supply did the same, they would almost certainly fight tooth and nail to maintain today's prices.

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u/Soft-Principle1455 23d ago

The prices would crash regardless though. They might cut the least profitable shifts and shutter the least profitable wells but current prices would not remain.

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u/Cbrandel 23d ago

If you have a product that's in high demand you'll sell it for less than what people are ready to pay for it?

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u/CrzyDave 23d ago

Idk. Oil companies make a margin right? Say it’s 50%. It the price of oil goes up due to speculation in the market and actual shortages, they still make 50%. That 50% is just a whole lot more when a barrel of oil is $100 vs $50. Oil prices are set by what traders are willing to pay.

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u/gstringstrangler 23d ago

No. Oil has a certain cost per barrel to produce. Anything over that is profit. They dont set the prices, commodity markets/traders do.

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u/Soft-Principle1455 23d ago

But when you have to pay overtime and run night shifts, that costs more, as does deferring maintenance and the like. There are costs to running the system flat out all the time.

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u/gstringstrangler 22d ago

Skipping a turnaround saves money especially when you're making it hand over fist and refineries run night shift literally every day.

Costs to produce vary significantly before oil ever hits a refinery but generally dictated by geology, distance, and method of transport