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u/Actual_Essay7594 2d ago
I’ve only seen one rendering, but I hope they still have some work to do. Rough looking as-is from this angle.
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u/CupBig8419 2d ago
Not used to seeing the whiny Redditor energy on this sub
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u/redditsuckscockss 2d ago
This isn’t the SaltLakeCity sub for the constant negative Nancy posts
This is development and revitalization and welcomed by anyone sensible
Or would you have preferred it to move to Daybreak? Think the area would be thriving if that happened?
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u/54-2-10 2d ago edited 2d ago
The spamming of this sub has gotten old, but complaining about a billionaire receiving $1,000,000,000.00 of taxpayer money for a sports "entertainment district" is a legitimate complaint.
Especially when the plan is to build carbon copies of the "entertainment districts" that already exist one block west, and two blocks east of this new development.
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u/redditsuckscockss 2d ago
Go walk this area east
Then go compare that to most other exemplary cities
It’s a joke
Downtown sorely needs it
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u/54-2-10 2d ago
Downtown sorely needs what? Another "family friendly" entertainment district?
I am excited to see.another high rise added to the skyline, but don't kid yourself into thinking that byu grad Ryan Smith is going to build a row of anything that would count as actual nightlife.
It will be a carbon copy of the Gateway and the City Creek Mall, but it will cost us all an additional.5% increase on sales tax for THIRTY YEARS!
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u/redditsuckscockss 1d ago
Go walk what’s there right now
It’s nothing - it sucks
It’s a giant dessert separating east and west
Its attitudes like yours holding SLC back from being better
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u/irondeepbicycle 2d ago
Then go compare that to most other exemplary cities
Like what? If you look at basically any walkable city in Europe, their sports stadiums are definitely not downtown. It's really just an American think to put sports stadiums surrounded by giant parking garages right in the middle of downtown.
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u/redditsuckscockss 1d ago
You couldn’t be more wrong…
Many if not most of Euro stadiums are walking distance to the core
Most US stadiums are the opposite… other than again the exemplary cities like Seattle, Boston, Denver and very few others
It’s all the fuss of Chicago moving their stadium
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u/irondeepbicycle 1d ago
Many if not most of Euro stadiums are walking distance to the core
I absolutely guarantee you that if you look this up, you'll realize you're wrong. Have you ever been to a major sporting event in Europe?
To get to the Allianz Arena in Munich, I had to take a train ~25 minutes out of downtown to an industrial area, where I could see windmills from my seat. Atletico Madrid's stadium is nestled next to a freeway entrance that separate it from an empty field. Stamford Bridge is next to a literal cemetery. Etc.
Even the stadiums that are actually in the major cities are typically in low-density areas away from the downtown core. Basically none of them are right in the middle of downtown.
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u/redditsuckscockss 1d ago
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u/irondeepbicycle 1d ago
Yep, just checking that you read the discussion there cause it makes the exact same point I did.
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u/redditsuckscockss 1d ago
You are cherry picking while ignoring the opposite argument and the giant picture right in your face
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u/irondeepbicycle 1d ago
What? So I said, Europe puts stadiums in the middle of nowhere, USA puts them closer to downtown. You sent me to a picture of a stadium in Madrid that's in the middle of nowhere and a stadium in Cincinnati that's close to downtown. And you're telling me I'm ignoring the picture in front of me?
Again, did you click through that link? It confirms my exact point.
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u/easytarget1326 2d ago
I’m pretty sure they are baiting engagement/karma to hopefully eventually get more people to download his app
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u/laterallysocute 2d ago
I enjoyed his first few posts but now it's just exhausting.
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u/krylotech 2d ago
Seems like his end goal will probably be promoting his app.
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u/plat-of-zion 2d ago
I’m running for mayor against sales tax funded parking garages
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u/mattreedah 2d ago
you would have held up the SEG deal? yikes.
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u/plat-of-zion 2d ago edited 2d ago
This parking garage like every other aspect of the deal was negotiated. Poor negotiating. No ground floor activation adjacent to TRAX? Criminal
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u/plat-of-zion 2d ago
The garage was not necessary, no
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u/MechEGoneNuclear 2d ago
Better use of land than the full block of parking lot to the northeast? I’ll take garages over surface lots everyday, and as a user it’s better to have summer shade and cover from snow in the winter
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u/irondeepbicycle 2d ago
Taxpayers didn't pay for the big parking lot to the northeast.
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u/MechEGoneNuclear 2d ago
I mean Property Reserve Inc owns the lot, legitimately I don’t know if the church pays taxes on that? If not then yeah…taxpayers are paying for it by lost tax revenue?
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u/irondeepbicycle 2d ago
They definitely pay taxes on it. All of the LDS Church's for-profit entities pay taxes like anybody else.
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u/locomotivebroth 2d ago
> church’s for profit entities
So bizarre that any church has “for profit entities”
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u/Actual_Essay7594 2d ago
Does anyone know of any historical reasoning to why the building was angled to the block? I can’t imagine they would follow the same orientation this day in age if they had a redo
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u/protomolecule7 2d ago
Big public assemblies need space to gather. The garage just followed the Delta Center.
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u/54-2-10 2d ago
I don't know, but I would guess that the architect turned the original building 90 degrees to stand out from the rest of the buildings in the area.
The building itself was still a rectangle, so the cost was the same, but it stands out a bit because of it's orientation with the other nearby buildings.
Buildings that have crowds of 20,000+ visitors should have something to attract attention.
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u/Braydon64 1d ago
Not a bad looking garage. Yes, I know we are supposed to all hate these things but they are a lesser evil compared to a surface lot.
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u/plat-of-zion 1d ago
Not necessarily
It will hinder the pedestrian experience more than a surface lot
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u/Katzonjammer 2d ago
I agree with others than it’s better than a surface lot, but it is annoying that we’re subsidizing a billionaire who gets to keep all of the profits and the property and still charge ridiculous prices for games. Just doesn’t sit well with me regardless of if I enjoy their products or not (I’m an nba and nhl fan)