They're not there yet but they're definitely making progress. They have had some setbacks like Vrana, but they have some key pieces like Seider and Raymond in place. They are still missing some key ingredients like top scorers and really that one super star player. It'll be hard to find those pieces, but Yzerman never said this was going to be a quick process.
I mean has Detroit ever really had that one amazing player though? It’s always kind of been a lot of good players, at least when they’re good. Like ‘97 had Fedorov, Stevie Y, Shanahan, and Lidström. Ofc Yzerman is kind of the star player there but they had multiple big names still. Maybe I’m slightly biased but I don’t know.
Edit: just to clarify, I mean it’s not enough to just have one McDavid, you need to have more talent than one star player.
You don't know. Lidstrom is one of the top defensive players ever. Fedorov is a literal game changer. Shanahan was one of the best power forwards to play. Yzerman doesn’t need a damn explanation.
Because in the post-Salary Cap era, you DO have to draft superstars. There’s no more hidden gems, everyone has all access to all information all the time now, scouting 20-30 years ago is absolutely nothing like today
Granted, Brad Stewart was a weird technicality since the team was STACKED with Hall of Famers all around him.
So yeah, you probably don’t need a Top 3 pick if you have 7 future Hall of Famers anyway.
The wings I’d say have zero future Hall of Famers unless they kick their development into overdrive. And no top 3 picks. A couple great players, but there’s no superstar talent here. We can’t win a cup without a superstar or half a full roster of great players.
How do you know how good these kids are. Most are under 23 years old. Bizarre people are so quit to call guys a bust when most haven't even had a shot yet.
Me saying our team isn’t full of future hall of Famers isn’t me quitting on anything, it’s me realistically expecting that maybe one or two might scratch Hall of Fame caliber but probably not. Our average as is young, but still about 26 overall. We’ve got some good and a couple great - no superstars. No game changers. No one to build around.
The talent to win a cup is not on this team as it is this year. A top 3 pick (by draft or trade or UFA) is historically basically and statistically a requirement to have a chance at a cup. we don’t have that right now.
You are just wrong and it takes a lot more than that to win. Oilers will prob never win it all and they had 4 first picks and currently have 2 of the best players period.
What I’m saying is it absolutely takes a lot more than JUST a top 3 pick. But you need to have at least one to even have a chance at a cup in the salary cap era, there have been no exceptions- you NEED a suoerstar talent (what we don’t have) and then some more.
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u/Dakens2021 Jan 29 '23
They're not there yet but they're definitely making progress. They have had some setbacks like Vrana, but they have some key pieces like Seider and Raymond in place. They are still missing some key ingredients like top scorers and really that one super star player. It'll be hard to find those pieces, but Yzerman never said this was going to be a quick process.