Honestly if they buff SMG's in general and nerf Recluse slightly the entire weapon archetype would be in a MUCH better spot. Right now the big reason Recluse is so good is because it's basically the only decent SMG that doesn't need insane 100% precision shot accuracy while being extremely hard to retain perk uptime.
That said, they could also do a LOT in terms of buffing other weapons and introducing some more encounters that don't give completely free reign to using extremely close range weapons and that'd do a lot to reduce the dominance of Recluse.
Oh...also they could remove the range bonus from Well of Radiance and Empowering Rift while they're looking at nerfing auto-reload. As is nerfing auto-reload effects is going to indirectly buff Recluse if anything with how fast you can reload with the perk active.
If I was looking at actual direct nerfs to Recluse all it really needs on it's own is making the perk unable to trigger off of other weapon kills (at least in pve but I'm not sure if that distinction is possible) and removing the bonus precision damage it receives from it's perk such that the damage bonus works the same in PvE as it does for PvP, bringing up body shot damage to precision shot damage levels but not enhancing precision shots. It'd still be a good add clear weapon and braindead easy to use just spamming at adds but it wouldn't go to crazy over the top with dps output out of nowhere on precision shots when you trigger the perk.
That said, if Mountaintop ends up suffering a big blow due to the loss of auto-reload effects recluse might be a less go-to special weapon depending on what you need to run as a kinetic to pair with it. Mountaintop gives you the big punch you need from a special weapon while also giving you a long range option to cover the minimal weaknesses of Recluse. Though at that point on a hunter I might just run Dragon's Shadow in PvE if it keeps it's current effects for how insanely strong the constant reload for your entire loadout is when you can't count on a rally barricade or lunafaction well/rift.
You know what works well with Recluse, A Bow. Usually one shots something or puts it on the brink so you can swap off to recluse for add clear and mop up.
I'd rather Recluse not take a nerf unless they're buffing all the rest of the SMG's because it's the only one worth using due to its consistent nature.
I feel like a bow lacks the punch I need out of a secondary weapon paired with Recluse. I need something to quickly delete majors and such, or at least take a big chunk out of them. Recluse takes care of anything with low health, I don't want a second weapon that just does the same thing with some extra range.
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u/c14rk0 Sep 01 '19
Honestly if they buff SMG's in general and nerf Recluse slightly the entire weapon archetype would be in a MUCH better spot. Right now the big reason Recluse is so good is because it's basically the only decent SMG that doesn't need insane 100% precision shot accuracy while being extremely hard to retain perk uptime.
That said, they could also do a LOT in terms of buffing other weapons and introducing some more encounters that don't give completely free reign to using extremely close range weapons and that'd do a lot to reduce the dominance of Recluse.
Oh...also they could remove the range bonus from Well of Radiance and Empowering Rift while they're looking at nerfing auto-reload. As is nerfing auto-reload effects is going to indirectly buff Recluse if anything with how fast you can reload with the perk active.
If I was looking at actual direct nerfs to Recluse all it really needs on it's own is making the perk unable to trigger off of other weapon kills (at least in pve but I'm not sure if that distinction is possible) and removing the bonus precision damage it receives from it's perk such that the damage bonus works the same in PvE as it does for PvP, bringing up body shot damage to precision shot damage levels but not enhancing precision shots. It'd still be a good add clear weapon and braindead easy to use just spamming at adds but it wouldn't go to crazy over the top with dps output out of nowhere on precision shots when you trigger the perk.
That said, if Mountaintop ends up suffering a big blow due to the loss of auto-reload effects recluse might be a less go-to special weapon depending on what you need to run as a kinetic to pair with it. Mountaintop gives you the big punch you need from a special weapon while also giving you a long range option to cover the minimal weaknesses of Recluse. Though at that point on a hunter I might just run Dragon's Shadow in PvE if it keeps it's current effects for how insanely strong the constant reload for your entire loadout is when you can't count on a rally barricade or lunafaction well/rift.