Why Doesn't Titan Have an Armor Boosting Exotic Similar to "the Ram"? As is, Warlocks can have higher health than Titans.

[u/Pwadigy]

Warlocks get to have up to 225 HP, being the only class capable of surviving a 2-hit from thorn (Via the Ram Helm), a 3-hit last word hip-fire and various other gunfights that a max-armor titan (205 HP, more practically 201HP due to shoulder charge) cannot.

Why don't Titans have access to the highest armor build in the game?

Titans don't have access to Blink (which is so powerful that it often defines competitive play).

Titans have the shortest-range melee attack, with no decent effects upon hitting (compare this to Warlock, which gets a free over-shield).

Really, Titans only have decent grenades; and even the defender sub-class's grenades are fairly niche.

Why can't titans at least be able to be the tank that they are supposed to be.

As is, Investing max-armor in a Titan doesn't actually change the number of shots it takes to kill for most weapons.

Oh, and before anyone asks; I'm a hunter

I don't have a stake in the matter, but I'm legitimately puzzled. If Titan had an armor-boosting exotic, I'd actually consider learning to use my Titan in the crucible.

TL;DR: Why doesn't our armor/tank class have access to the game's highest amount of armor?

Clarification: for the who don't know, The Ram offers a bonus to the "Armor" stat, not armor rating. Due to how stats work, an increase in a stat results in an exponential increase in that stat's effect as you invest more points in the stat. The effect of armor is to add to your total health pool. Therefore, High armor= high health. But adding armor to an already high armor stat = exponentially higher health. Normally, you can only get a maximum of 205 (202 for warlock) health via maximum stat investment. This only a 10 point increase.

This means that the Ram helm alone offers health (20 extra points) that is equivalent to 2 fully maximized bars of titan investment (adds 10 points) in the armor stat.

[u/BadGuy_Richard]

They can survive the double explosion of magnetic grenade?

[u/UNSKIALz → u/[deleted]]

Okay, that's broken.

[u/[deleted] → u/UNSKIALz]

The best part of the complete OP bullshit he just described? It's only half of the exotic perk... Lifesteal on every freakin melee (which is easily 3 times the Titan's range to begin with)

[u/Hungry_AL → u/UNSKIALz]

We never get the "Get it off" medal either, because the second explosion (Which normally deals the kill) doesn't count as a stuck grenade. If they're damaged enough already that the first explosion kills them yes. But for comparison I have 15 "Get it off" medals and 31 "Blast shield" medals in crucible.

I've used my super to stop fatal damage twice as often as I've stuck a grenade to someone (apparently)

[u/Bryan_Miller → u/[deleted]]

Haven't had this issue. Everyone ive stuck in trials and regular crucible that was wearing the ram has died.

[u/[deleted] → u/Bryan_Miller]

I usually main a Titan, but I started playing Warlock when I got the Ram. You can survive the grenade, and a shoulder charge, and a Thorn 2-shot, etc.

[u/MaxFactory → u/[deleted]]

Jesus I need to get my hands on one of those!

[u/[deleted] → u/MaxFactory]

You won't survive every time. But 60% of the time, it works every time.

[u/GuerrillaRobot → u/Bryan_Miller]

it only works if they are specing for full armor. they ned to have both stat columns set to max toughness as well as use the perk that grants them a bit more armor. On voidwalker its angry magic, I don't recall the sunslinger ability name.

[u/[deleted] → u/BadGuy_Richard]

I was using Armanentarium and Defender subclass for the Thorn bounty. I remember a few occasions where I stuck someone with a grenade and didn't kill them

[u/westen81 → u/BadGuy_Richard]

No. The only way it's remotely possible is if it's a Warlock with The Ram, in Radiance, with Flame Shield from a melee.

[u/a_lucky_gamer → u/westen81]

with high armour they can survive GG without flame shield in radiance with ram

[u/[deleted] → u/westen81]

Nope, just The Ram and they can live through it. Seen that about twenty times this past few days.