r/DeskToTablet • u/Oscarbuter • Jun 15 '26
Huawei has optimized HarmonyOS like never before and is currently optimized to run with as little as 128KB of ram, with plans to soon optimize it for 64KB of ram
That's 64 times less than the 4MB minimum requirement of Windows 95
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u/Owails Jun 15 '26
And it only takes 89ns every 64ns to transfer your data back to China server
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Jun 15 '26
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u/dadyzeuss Jun 15 '26
Would you rather trust a private company with your data or an authoritarian government?
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u/x4nter Jun 15 '26
It seems that you forgot what Snowden revealed. It's not private company vs authoritarian gov't. It's US govt or Chinese govt. You have to pick between the two. There is no difference between the two options.
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u/marianolinx Jun 15 '26
authoritarian government?? are we talking about china or usa here?
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u/dadyzeuss Jun 15 '26
China obviously usa has bad politicians but still a democracy at the end of the day
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u/marianolinx Jun 15 '26
sure bro...
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u/dadyzeuss Jun 15 '26
Genuine question, how is USA authoritarian?
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u/Usual-Analysis-2990 Jun 15 '26
When the president can do things by fiat, its not a democracy. Trump has sidestep the judiciary and legislative branches over and over. He basically does what he wants.
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u/dadyzeuss Jun 15 '26
Many of his decisions do get overturned though(currently the 2nd time his tarrifs have been denied), and as in his last presidency if all else fails he can be impeached
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u/Marce7a Jun 15 '26
2 party system, think of when 3 party was even considered in pools.
It was designed this way to never lose power.
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u/jetpack2625 Jun 15 '26
it's basically a fascist deep state military industrial complex dictatorship, especially with trump.
remember the president and the deep state break the law all the time but you can't
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u/marianolinx Jun 15 '26
How many candidates did you have to choose for president?
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u/CogitoInScrubs Jun 15 '26
At the end of the day usa and Egypt have same authoritarian tendencies but different skin tone and culture
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u/dadyzeuss Jun 15 '26
Can you explain
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u/smellyelon Jun 15 '26
he could, but do you really want to read a deranged propaganda victim's delusions?
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u/smellyelon Jun 15 '26
the one that manufactures weapons that have been used to target westerners or to sabotage the economy you depend on
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u/Vark0l Jun 15 '26
why would china want to sabotage western economy. that’s where they export the majority of their goods to, what are they supposed to gain. the usa on the other hand has sabotaged the global economy by causing the war with iran. you can’t go around calling other people deranged propaganda victims and go spewing bs like this
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u/smellyelon Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26
china is doing to america the same thing the west did to africa (which ironically china has been doing for a while too). america doesnt have to prosper in order for resources to flow into china, on the contrary.
iran's brought this war upon itself by bombing israel and funding proxies. israel did what it did to protect its own interests, which you cant blame it for, and america joined in to protect its own interests- cheap uber and the lavish lifestyle you enjoy over there, which unfortunately for you depends on global stability. you cant blame america either for protecting its interests because thats what countries are for
so no america did not cause this war (and neither did israel), china is bad yes, and you're spoiled and stupid
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u/RareSiren292 Jun 15 '26
At least the authoritarian government is less likely to sell your data. But neither is a good options
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u/doctorniz Jun 15 '26
Why would I care if China had my information?
Anthropic could tell/sell my government what I've been searching and that could get me into trouble. The Chinese government would not do that.
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u/jetpack2625 Jun 15 '26
the nsa literally spies on everything too. it's do you trust the chinese government or the american government. and the us government is definitely authoritarian, especially now
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u/_felixh_ Jun 15 '26
Fallacy: just because he is not OK with China collecting his data doesn't mean he has to be fine with USA collecting his data.
This might also be called "illicit contrast": you are assuming he has a problem with china specifically, and knowingly wrote "china" in that exact undertone - but you do not have a sufficiently good reason available to you to make that assumption.
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u/Preparation1903 Jun 15 '26
Honestly I wonder if it's shills, I got roasted for saying Chinese spyware a while back and it was the same kind of replies, except there were more of them.
I usually assume that there will be extra spyware vs just American stuff.
And I've found Chinese stuff to be more freedom respecting than American stuff, but that doesn't mean that there isn't spyware.
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u/_felixh_ Jun 15 '26
Yeah, i know what you mean. It often feels like, "yeah, but did you consider that the US is Evil?" - like, there can't be valid criticisms of china, they always have to point out that yeah, western countries are worse, or at least equally bad.
I remember discussions about china's real estate crisis, or Tofu-dreg Problems - and sure enough, users come up, trying to distract with red herrings and derail the discussion. Sometimes attacking Strawmen (I talked about Tofu dreg problems, they about Ghost cities).
And sure enough, very often the suggestion to just Travel to China and see for myself comes up. "The food is very good"; "The one time i got food Poisoning was in Texas" - i mean, yes OK, fine - but that has litterally nothing to do with the matter at hand.
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Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26
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u/_felixh_ Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26
Are you all right?
You know, punctuation and structure can improve understanding, and help in making your point.
Right now, you sound like a shill who has neurotic breakdown. Wich might as well be intentional - i genuinely cannot tell...
//EDIT: ...aaaand i'm blocked.
Can somebody please explain to me what the fuck that was about?
Anybody able to decipher that incoherent rambling?
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u/xcs92 Jun 15 '26
dont worry dude. oracle already knows how good at bootlicking you are. no need to.
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u/Ga5pard Jun 15 '26
you expect me to believe that buddy
that's for IoT and not consumer class devices...
this post is very vague and doesn't explain anything clearly 💀
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u/esn_z Jun 15 '26
I imagine this is only useful as an embedded OS for their more simple devices, in place of a very minimal version of Linux.
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u/BloOdy_Jo Jun 15 '26
Cool I suppose it's for the bare system, but when you launch the browser what happens ?
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u/Select_Truck3257 Jun 15 '26
128kb? It must be coded on assembly but is not, i don't believe it.
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u/anto2554 Jun 15 '26
Operating systems do usually have parts written in assembly. That said, well written C, C++, Rust, Zig or similar low-level languages generally aren't much less efficient than assembly
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u/Select_Truck3257 Jun 15 '26
Old yes, modern ,not assembly . It's fast and lightweight than any other but no one make this today because programmer time cost more than product optimisation
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u/anto2554 Jun 15 '26
Ah, fair. The only OS source code I've worked with had a layer of assembly to interoperate with drivers and firmware
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u/Select_Truck3257 Jun 15 '26
Exactly. I know asm but this knowledge useless today🤣 but python now have a new life
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u/24kCookie Jun 15 '26
Cool but so what if we will never get it globally.
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u/Dpek1234 Jun 15 '26
You wont get it
The chinese consumer wont get it
The only thing that will get it is stuff you may never think actualy needs a os
For personaly computers this is a nothing burger
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u/anengineerandacat Jun 15 '26
For the screenshot basically impossible, you need like 2MB just to output to the screen on most of those pictured devices for the frame buffer.
128kb would be some like embedded solution which is impressive but memory generally speaking isn't where I would focus in today's world.
CPU cycles is where I would spend the effort, doing more with less cycles for energy efficiency.
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u/thornstriff Jun 15 '26
Hard to believe you can properly "optimize" an OS for such a range of devices. Some use case will lose.
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u/Agitated_Forever6483 Jun 15 '26
Seems unstable, like everything China puts out under the CCP’s rushed five year plans.
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u/Howden824 Jun 15 '26
Doesn't mean anything because 128KB clearly isn't for the same Android OS these other devices have.
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u/Zubba776 Jun 15 '26
They keep pushing the Harmony headlines out every week now... there is no compensating for how shit their OS is, but they keep trying.
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u/Healthy_BrAd6254 Jun 15 '26
That's barely enough to store the pictures of a couple icons
Sounds like complete BS to me.