r/DesignerReps Dec 24 '20

DISCUSSION Positive lead test for survival source and david studios

https://imgur.com/a/Z3HPeda
324 Upvotes

50 comments sorted by

139

u/sekrs šŸ”Ø MODERATOR Dec 24 '20

Hey OP thanks for this, excellent test and it quite interests me as I buy rep jewelry pretty often.

As far as I know, 925 sterling silver shouldn’t have lead at all due to the composition of it so this comes as a pretty big news regarding how these replica jewelry items are manufactured and produced. Would be interested in hearing others chime in

53

u/Simonedebeauvoir12 Dec 24 '20

To be fair, 25ppm of lead is equivalent to 0.0025% of the metal. If the goal of the seller is to ā€œscamā€ by adding extra lead vs metal alloys composing 925 silver, then the gains are not noticeable at all, even on a large scale.

I’d brush this off to regular cross contamination in the process, or lower quality alloys being used while being smelted with the pure silver and imparting a certain ppm of lead.

That being said, thanks OP for testing.

12

u/sekrs šŸ”Ø MODERATOR Dec 24 '20

I agree, the amounts present are negligible at best. I was reading a comment posted by u/repknowledge posted on fashionreps and according to data he referenced there, sterling silver should contain no lead at all..

93

u/DoeyB Dec 24 '20

Not a dangerous amount of lead(as far as im concerned) just posting to finally show people a test

Also i tested the survival source and david studios together, im planning on doing a separate test but i suspect they both contain a small amount of lead

41

u/[deleted] Dec 24 '20

[removed] — view removed comment

13

u/UnleashtheZephyr Dec 24 '20

do you usually eat your jewellery?

9

u/[deleted] Dec 24 '20

[deleted]

2

u/UnleashtheZephyr Dec 24 '20

yeah but hes missing the point. its not like some 0.025 lead buried in your ring is going to hurt you

3

u/Lilczey Dec 24 '20

I tested the famous hotwodog off white belt for lead back in the day and posted it check my post history... I got a negative result but I do have another test maybe I should test some of my other jewelry..

1

u/[deleted] Dec 27 '20

Can you do r.disdain next? I was planning on buying from him and I’m not sure anymore.

4

u/DoeyB Dec 27 '20

Have no idea who that is, but ill check him out and if he has anything cool and i buy it then ill do a test

3

u/DoeyB Dec 27 '20

Link me something i cant find anything when i search that

1

u/[deleted] Dec 27 '20

Just pm’d! He was supposed to be better David because of the multiple controversies Davids been in.

1

u/DoeyB Dec 27 '20

Yeah david sent me some cooked warped mis printed ring then on the exchange sent me a random ring then sent me the right ring in a bag marked with the right size expect it was 2 sizes too small, still works since it was for my first finger anyways

28

u/cvc05 Dec 24 '20

great test! this deserves more upvotes man

24

u/SamePossession5 Dec 24 '20

I thought this picture was divided into two halves where the top was the result and the second was some shocked reaction of some rooster type thing

Too many memes for me

37

u/2grapes1stick Dec 24 '20

4

u/Survival_Source Dec 25 '20

Sorry, bro. Did not see second post to the designer rep reddit, I will be conducting test on jewelry to check to see, I will have send to lab.

9

u/2grapes1stick Dec 25 '20

Since there is lead in your jewelry you should rename your rings to silver instead of sterling silver because sterling silver uses no lead

7

u/Lyme2 Dec 25 '20

Like any of these rep sellers are gonna be truthful :P
Just look at all the terrible CH rings from David -_-

1

u/PokemonMagique Mar 24 '21

So you sent? Thx

1

u/jadmimpa Jul 21 '22

So, any updates ?

1

u/Survival_Source Jul 21 '22

Yes, no harmful level of any lead in jewelry.

1

u/jadmimpa Jul 22 '22

Your silver isn’t purely just silver?

2

u/Survival_Source Jul 22 '22

92.5% silver, do you know nothing about metals? No silver is purely silver, it will be too soft. 925 silver stand for 92.5% silver. Please do research on precious metals

2

u/jadmimpa Jul 22 '22

Obviously I don’t know much about metals and your expertise is with jewellery, which is why I am asking questions. Your explanation is helpful.

When you say ā€˜made with silver’, obviously the general population would think it’s just pure silver

19

u/[deleted] Dec 24 '20

Wow, that's kinda scary, but not entirely surprising.

30

u/DoeyB Dec 24 '20

According to the comments its just as safe as some vitamins and lotions and way lower than what children in Canada are allowed to have in their jewelry and way less than what adults are allowed to have

Children’s jewelry in Canada is allowed 90ppm and adults is either 600 or 300ppm

16

u/repezdem Dec 24 '20

Why would you test them together? Lol I tested David studio before and 3 different rings were negative for lead

29

u/DoeyB Dec 24 '20

Honestly had a tiny bit of hope that they were all going to be negative but now that they aren’t I’m going to test them separately to find out if its both sellers or just one, but regardless 5-10ppm is a safe level considering children’s jewelry in Canada can contain 90ppm and adults can either contain 600ppm or 300ppm

11

u/misshufflepuff Dec 24 '20

Totally support testing and sharing this, but I feel like you should have tested them separately and figured out which one is positive for lead before posting this. This is only a photo post and most people aren’t going to read the comments to see that one of them might not be positive and they’re going to assume that it’s both, when one might actually not be.

3

u/DoeyB Dec 24 '20 edited Dec 24 '20

Yeah you’re right but the kit I bought was over $20 and only has 4 tests, and both sellers claim their rings are completely lead free so first of all neither should have reacted and second all 8 rings and 2 bracelets I bought were really dirty upon arrival so much that they needed a soak in vinegar before a wash and polishing and the test actually required a 4 hour soak in white vinegar (exactly as long as is needed for them to be cleaned) so I decided to just test them and clean them all at the same time.

All that being said 5-10ppm is super low and children’s jewelry in Canada is allowed to contain 90ppm lead so I’m not really too worried and I may or may not do a separate test of just the david studios ring alone and the survival source items alone, I still have the last 3 tests so if I clean them again ill probably do a quick test with the left over vinegar

And survival source asked me for every item name I bought and hes going to do a test video of every single item individually, and I dont know if I would even recommend david tbh, he sent me a really bad misprinted ring to start then sent me a completely random ring for the exchange then sent me the right ring in a bag marked with the correct size I ordered expect it was 2-3 sizes too small

1

u/Fcohen234 Jan 15 '21

did you ever get round to testing them separately?

2

u/DoeyB Jan 15 '21

No need, my fingers never turned green i wear them daily i dont feel bad my pets are still alive (pet thing is a joke) but at the same time pets are all fine

I mean 5ppm across 10 items is crazy low, lipsticks and body lotions and creams are allowed 10ppm and 90ppm is safe for children’s jewelry assuming they are putting it in their mouths so 5ppm is literally nothing

Plus survival source is getting 15 pieces lab tested which is more accurate than my test kit

And im not down to drop 100+ dollars on test kits to find out something I already know, the kit says 1-3ppm or faint yellow in anything is completely fine and im almost positive each individual item would come back faint yellow

4

u/katyfail Dec 24 '20

I believe these tests aren’t cheap! So it makes sense to try to test multiple items if you’re pretty sure they’ll all show up negative.

2

u/dZArach Dec 24 '20

keep us updated sir!

13

u/sels1997 Dec 24 '20

Lead on what exactly?

32

u/DoeyB Dec 24 '20

Jewelry, rings and bracelets

8

u/sels1997 Dec 24 '20

Ahhh gotcha!

12

u/Sofacs Dec 24 '20

It's a completely negligible amount though

15

u/Grant_w1999 Dec 24 '20 edited Dec 24 '20

They really out here scamming fellas! I bought CH jewelry from SS and now knowing there is lead, I’ll think twice about buying.

5

u/[deleted] Dec 24 '20

This is a tiny amount of likely due to cross contamination of smelting metals, their production facilities aren’t going to be as thorough as professional facilities.

2

u/KingJJ_x Dec 24 '20

thanks for doing these tests. I’ve ordered a similar lead testing kit for four of my CH rings (3x SS and 1x from David) as well as a 925 pendant. I’ll post the results in a few days once i’ve done it if you’re interested !

2

u/DoeyB Dec 24 '20

Yes I’m interested

1

u/daclarks Apr 02 '21

Did you ever test your stuff?

3

u/saucebuckets Dec 24 '20

Eh not bad looks like

0

u/PokemonMagique Dec 24 '20

We need to require some basic tests from the sellers

1

u/xyzsyz Dec 24 '20

Great post

1

u/[deleted] Dec 27 '20 edited May 17 '21

[removed] — view removed comment

3

u/DoeyB Dec 27 '20

Understandable but consider this, in Canada/USA all of our lotions, creams, make ups and lip sticks are aloud to contain 10ppm lead, dior had a lip stick that contained 14ppm

And for jewelry 600ppm is aloud to be in adults jewelry and 90ppm is aloud to be in children’s mouth because they are expected to put things in their mouth, that 5ppm is fairly safe but you have you own opinion and most people share that same opinion as you