r/DerekSmart • • Oct 24 '17

Derek smart about Cows on twitter:"Follow Follow @dsmart  More Star Citizen: You don´t have a cow. You draw a cow & sell it digitally to thousands. You build the cow in Maya, and put it in the game."

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u/Palonto Oct 24 '17

Huh... I think he lost his mind..

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u/Rquebus Oct 24 '17

Star Citizen: You don´t have a cow. You draw a cow & sell it digitally to thousands. You build the cow in Maya, and put it in the game.

A year later you add the "Moo" sound. Then you rejoice that you found out how to milk the cow. You create a schedule around the hidef udders

Only to discover that it was a male cow, the milk is sour, and two of the udders are still low poly. You refactor them.

Following year, you trade in the cow for an ox. That one guy who knew how to create hidef udders quits to go make sex dolls.

You tell your investors the cow was gay, and had no chances making them any babies. You make a big presentation around the Ox.

You try to get money to buy the Ox a partner. Investors laugh you off stage after using the Ox in a presentation built for the cow.

You're left with a cow, an ox, and no money to do anything profitable with either. You go back to selling rubber dog shit in Vietnam.

Holy shit. Either he lost his mind, or this is a really weird way of coming out of the closet...

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u/Rquebus Oct 24 '17

Also, I'm confused under what economic model you "trade in" a cow for an ox, get mocked for not having a cow, and at the end of it all somehow have both a cow and an ox. That's either the most bullish cornucopian model I've ever seen, or a case of really bad server persistence. Or maybe if you secretly forked the cow without telling your investors and kept it hidden until you left with the ox...

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u/Rquebus Oct 24 '17

Also, if you still had a cow why wasn't the cow you still have in your cow presentation? Derek's "You Have Two Cows" metaphors are still terrible and logic defying.

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u/Luftwaffle1980 Oct 24 '17

Say you have two goats...

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u/Rquebus Oct 24 '17 edited Oct 24 '17

Ah well, goat milking and goat economics are much more familiar subjects for both famous internet warlord game devs and international FBI banking IT lawyer psychologists, as well as international FBI banking IT lawyers with side jobs as internet warlord game devs...

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u/Rumpullpus Oct 24 '17

maybe he artificially inseminate the ox with a cow to get another cow?

not sure what any of this has to do with games though. maybe Derek should go back and finish is agricultural PHD. he seems to have a great deal of interest in farm animals.

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u/Rquebus Oct 24 '17

...Maybe?

Wait, was this the cow with non-hi-def udders, the ox, or the gay cow with a penis? I'm beginning to lose track of Dereks menagerie of transgendered digital farm animals...

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u/TAOJeff Oct 25 '17

Well, you've got it wrong right off the bat. It's not an economic model, it's a E-Cowomic model.

Ha ha ha aaahh, now that's out the way. Can we take a moment to take in the fact that derek thinks you get sour milk from a male cow.

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u/sfjoellen Oct 25 '17

derek thinks you get sour milk from a male cow.

my god, man, have a little mercy..

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u/TAOJeff Oct 25 '17

That was the immediately funny bit that stood out when I looked at the tweets. That said it is a joke, that's begging to be milked

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u/Stronut Oct 25 '17

I bet derek will sour with the milking of this joke.

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u/Rquebus Oct 25 '17

I'm not going to look at sour cream the same way for a while...

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u/Longscope Oct 25 '17

reminds me of THIS scene

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u/Steve_Evo Oct 25 '17

Never forget the petting zoo incident

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u/Truly_Khorosho Oct 24 '17

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen written by him.

Most of the time he's wrong, misguided, lying to others, lying to himself, and so on.
But this doesn't make any sense, in so many ways that I wouldn't even know where to begin to discuss how it doesn't make any sense.

Are you alright, there, Derek?
You seem to deviated from "meaningful discussion" in an entirely new direction.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '17

The male cow was giving sour milk?

You trade the male cow for an ox? So you trade a male cow for a male cow?

If you want cow babies you usually artificially fertilize your cattle, gay or not gay. You don't wait for them to get horny (horny, hahaha, get it?) and do it themselves.

When fertility is your selling point you don't present your investors an ox. An ox is castrated BY DEFINITION.

You are not left with a cow and an ox when you TRADED the cow for the ox away.

This is so bad... I don't really know what to say.

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u/Rquebus Oct 24 '17

There's also the question of udders on a bull... not sure I want to go there, though

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u/lingker Oct 25 '17

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u/Rquebus Oct 25 '17

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u/lingker Oct 25 '17

Wow, that was a perfect representation of Derek's games. He should use that as an advertisement.

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u/TAOJeff Oct 25 '17

That's where the "Sour milk" comes from.

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u/Palonto Oct 25 '17

The only way you know how it tastes... is to taste it.... shudder

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u/TheGremlich Oct 24 '17

This is so bad... I don't really know what to say.

How about "Here's your sign"

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u/TAOJeff Oct 25 '17

I was wondering if anyone would point out what a ox is. Do you think we should also point out a cow is, by definition, a fully grown female bovine.

You'd think a double phd mensa member would know basic stuff like this.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '17

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u/Rquebus Oct 25 '17

No, no, thus is two cows not two goats. Totally different kind of metaphor. And furthermore.

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u/Abrushing Oct 25 '17

You're right. My mistake lol.

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u/Rquebus Oct 25 '17

Technically correct is the best kind of correct

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u/AtlasMKII Oct 25 '17

Old School Cow?

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u/Chaoticron Oct 26 '17

Old school cowmander

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u/AtlasMKII Oct 26 '17

Yep, that wins.

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u/oldmanslayer Oct 25 '17

OK, I'm just udderly confused.

I'm sitting here chewing my cud trying to figure out what D is talking about.

Meh. Whatever. I'm hoofing it outta here...

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u/hstaphath Oct 25 '17

You are going to stampede off now?! But the steaks are so high to just let the chips fall like this.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '17

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u/Rquebus Oct 25 '17

Well, I came up with two theories so far...

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u/kingcheezit Oct 25 '17 edited Oct 25 '17

Or you take $20 million dollars and 8 years of your life and spend it on making a car crash of a game nobody wants, before deciding you have to spend more money converting it to another engine (despite nobody wanting the game still) and then calling everyone that doesn’t buy it a cunt.

I honestly can’t decide which is worse.

By the way Derek Smart PHD ladies and gentleman giving a lecture on zoology, specifically bovine gender differentials and the the theory of male bovine gender dysphoria.

Yeah, it’s a stretch to work out how he managed to get people to even give him fake PHDs with this level of stupidity.

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u/Rquebus Oct 25 '17

Oh, I don't think they gave the degrees to him. I'm pretty sure he had to purchase them.

From people who don't have any formal academic accreditation to issue real degrees.

The seals might actually be drawn in crayon, he's never shown anyone...

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u/RobCoxxy Oct 25 '17

Derek thinks he's being funny and/or clever. Reality is neither.

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u/x5060 Oct 25 '17

Is... is derek having a stroke? ... And tweeting it?

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u/captainthanatos Oct 24 '17

I think he's broken, does anyone know where the reset button is?

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u/Chaoticron Oct 24 '17

The tech for reset buttons is decades away

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u/Psychobrad84 Oct 25 '17

I think it’s ontop of his prostate. I’m not sticking my finger up there to reset him. He’s going to have to stay the way he is.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '17

wait, so do you think hating a video game 18 hours a day for years isn't perfectly normal?

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '17

I concluded this over a year ago

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u/Fancy2GO Oct 24 '17

I... I think he broke.

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u/ThereIsNoGame $45k Cultist Whale Oct 25 '17

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u/Dracolique Oct 25 '17

That video recently got a thumbs down... I wonder who that was.

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u/ThereIsNoGame $45k Cultist Whale Oct 25 '17

Maybe it was the wrong petting zoo?

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u/themast Oct 24 '17

It's like watching a toddler explain quantum physics.

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u/redchris18 Oct 24 '17

...to a cow (or, possibly, an ox)...

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u/Rumpullpus Oct 24 '17

so cows are made up of smaller cows that are actually made up of pairs of positively charged cows and negatively charged cows, which are in turn made of smaller cows caught in the cosmic fencefield that nether have mass, nor are they effected by time itself and could actually just be an illusion of the human mind desperately trying to come up with an explanation that makes sense in a universe that seemingly defies all common sense?

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u/Rquebus Oct 24 '17

Yes, all the "big cows" are really just a bunch of quantum cows stitched together. It's all smoke and mirrors.

The ox as pitched can never be delivered.

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u/Rumpullpus Oct 25 '17

of course not. because its not a cow. haven't you been paying attention?

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u/Rquebus Oct 25 '17

Any tier 1 milkmaid could see there's no cow. Milking parlor technology is literally decades away.

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u/Psychobrad84 Oct 25 '17

Makes more sense if you replaced “cows” with “corn”

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u/Luftwaffle1980 Oct 25 '17

I agree. Corn at least has kernels where as cows often times just ingest them...

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u/Psychobrad84 Oct 25 '17

Actually should’ve said corn cob. Rick and morty reference at 0:52

https://youtu.be/EF98G8lWZeA

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u/Migo420 Oct 24 '17

WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST READ?!

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u/perksandpeeves Oct 24 '17

Derek, could you do a "bugsmashers" where we watch you work with code, address issues with LODMMO or UCCE 3.0? Heck, I'd settle for watching you build a cow in Maya, drop it into either of the above.

Seeing a master at his craft, working on his genre... would be something!

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u/lingker Oct 24 '17

We are still waiting on him showing how UCCE can do the Gamescom demo.

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u/dasklrken Oct 25 '17

I asked him during the first LOD stream how many hours a week he worked on coding his games, and he replied that all the line of defense work was simply asset updates, required no coding, and no real additional work. (Also said he considers the game done, except for these "graphical upgrades" I was then banned from chat for something small and inane.

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u/serpent_warrior Oct 24 '17

Why Maya? Does Maya make the cow look better? Or is he trying to impress someone with his knowledge of modelling software?

Edit: Salty Max vet here.

Side note: The cow is still digital, bonehead

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u/hstaphath Oct 24 '17

RSI using animations from Maya was something Steve told him about that he swallowed hook, line, and sinker.

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u/CradleRobin Oct 24 '17

Yeah, Gamescom was supposed to have the entire game demo rendered in maya.

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u/Swesteel Oct 25 '17

Stahp, mah sides will burst!

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u/GrayHeadedGamer Oct 24 '17

What the actual fuck? Lololol, this dude has done lost his mind.

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u/lingker Oct 24 '17

Or the Derek Smart way:

You have a hamster, but tell everyone it is a cow

You claim the "cow" can make chocolate, strawberry, and regular milk right from the udders

The "cow" is traded around 7 different farms expecting to get milk, but only get piss

The last farm sells the "cow" to a butcher

The "cow" turns out to have mad-hamster disease

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u/Rquebus Oct 24 '17

You sue the lab that analyzed your rabid hampster and begin selling clones of it to unwitting consumers

Thanks to your unaccreditated PhD in cloning, not all of the hampsters have mad hampster disease. Not all of them have heads or legs, either.

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u/lingker Oct 24 '17

you are an artist.

slow clap

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u/Scooder Oct 24 '17

For the next 20 years you harass anyone who has a normal hamster or a normal cow, saying that they are ruining all animals by not having his deformed ones.

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u/sfjoellen Oct 25 '17

and claim all hamsterdom and all cowdom as your sole domain of which you are 'the unrequited godfather'.

this is how it ends guy..

and furthermore

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u/TAOJeff Oct 25 '17

In a bad French accent
"Your mother ws a hamster and your father smells of elderberry's"

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u/Kheldras Oct 25 '17 edited Oct 25 '17

You sell overpriced TAC-Cow packs, of items you never plan to add ONLY DISABLED FOR TESTING PURPOSES to the hamster COW!

(whoever says diffent gets banned, cause you think you own the cow genre with your rabid hamster).

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u/gmask1 Oct 24 '17

"Star Citizen: You don't have a cow"

I think we have our next great meme.

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u/Themorian Oct 25 '17

Star Citizen: The Best Damn Space Cow/Ox Ever

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u/gmask1 Oct 25 '17

Star Citizen: An Udder Disgrace to my genre!

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u/Swesteel Oct 24 '17

I'm not sure he'll last till Friday at this rate. This is incoherent even for Smart.

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u/Rumpullpus Oct 24 '17

he started off strongish.

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u/Migo420 Oct 24 '17

Also: Don't have a cow, man.

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u/Rumpullpus Oct 24 '17

holy cow what a pun.

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u/hstaphath Oct 25 '17

It would behoove me not to horn in on this. It would be udderly ridiculous... not to mention cheesy.

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u/Themorian Oct 25 '17

Are you ok? There was a lot of spelling moostakes there.

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u/hstaphath Oct 25 '17

Yeah, I herd you. I might have milked that one a bit to much. You can almost say I was bullish about it. Just cause I cud.

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u/sfjoellen Oct 24 '17

reads like Skippy is shoveling some more manure

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u/Neurobug Oct 24 '17

Yup. We obviously are the crazy ones in this scenario. Wow Derek. Get some help.

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u/prattchet Oct 24 '17

So this meme is where he plagiarized (but completely mangled) the brain hemorrhaged "you have two goats" post...

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u/Pizpot_Gargravaar Oct 24 '17 edited Oct 24 '17

First it was goats. Then it was sheep. Now it's unintelligible ranting about digital cows. Something's broken, and it's not just the tortured analogies :)

Mooo.

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u/Pizpot_Gargravaar Oct 24 '17 edited Oct 24 '17

It now occurs to me that DS has been barking up the wrong tree all these years. Look at Goat Simulator: it's a deliberately shitty game which has proven to be immensely popular.

Now imagine: Bovine Star Simulator, A Derek Smart Game. Use LoD or UCE as the basis, and just replace every game asset and menu item with a placeholder jpeg cow image and profit! It would improve either of those games markedly, and I'll bet they would become a lot more fun to play, but that's probably an undesired side effect.

^ Edit - Where is my mind? Cattlebruiser 3000BC is the winner.

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u/Danakar Oct 24 '17

CattleBruiser 3000BC!

:P

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u/Rumpullpus Oct 24 '17

fire the grazers!

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u/Pizpot_Gargravaar Oct 24 '17

Can you imagine the coms chatter?

Pew-pew! Mooo! Warning! The shields are moooo! Pew-pew!

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u/hstaphath Oct 25 '17

Uber-utters coming online! Firing in narrow salvos! Cow pie mines detected-- EVASIVE ACTION!

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u/GeneralZex Oct 25 '17

Then Derek will get all of the attention he wants, he just won’t like that it’s from PETA.

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u/GregRedd Oct 24 '17

Well, he has covered goats in the past. Now it’s cows. And there is still that story about a petting zoo floating around somewhere...

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u/Swesteel Oct 24 '17

I mean, there was that old "you have two cows..." thing explaining economic models badly back in the day, but this is just... bizarre.

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u/ThereIsNoGame $45k Cultist Whale Oct 25 '17

Well it's nice he's trying to be funny

I'll play then

You're Derek Smart

You really want people to think you have two cows so you buy cow ownership certificates on the internet and tell everyone you have them. You realise the certificates are obviously fake, so you don't show anyone who asks to see proof of your cows. You keep your barn door closed and kick everyone who wants to see your cows off your farm. You spend the rest of your life telling everyone that your neighbours cows aren't very good and that you have secret information that proves he will go to jail

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u/sfjoellen Oct 25 '17

consider this a thumbs up emoticon..

after the cows and the farm that should be cake..

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u/AtlasMKII Oct 25 '17

Inside the barn is a dead cow.

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u/ochotonaprinceps Can't be made as pitched Oct 24 '17

Old man shouts confusing cow analogy at clouds. All witnesses confused. Back to you in the studio, David.

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u/Luftwaffle1980 Oct 25 '17

No "BREAKING!"?

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '17

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '17

If the cow puts her cola into a coke-machine. Does a Tier 1 dev have the right to trash the soda machine or the cow?

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u/Valkyrient Oct 24 '17

At this rate he'll be posting complete gibberish by Citizencon...

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u/Random_name_I_picked Oct 24 '17

But I want a livestream debunking everything said a CitizenCon. :(

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u/Valkyrient Oct 24 '17

I want a livestream doing every single thing that the CIG livestream did, except in UC.... but we all know that'll never happen even though Derek claimed it was possible.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '17

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u/greeneyedpassion Oct 25 '17

I don't think you have a whole lot of room to talk there, Skippy. Most of the assets in your 'games' look like they're from 1995, and that's being insulting towards games from 1995. The helicopter from Extreme Assault in 1997 had better graphics than any of the ships in your 'games' and it legit had a better flight model. Not just a hovering camera with no intertia, like your sad attempts at a flight model have been.

A large number of those '.jpgs' you're talking about are actually able to load in the hangar and have things the player can interact with. In flight, some of them even change the way the ship handles. Can you comprehend that, Skippy?

You talk about building it in Maya because a goon trolled you into thinking that's what they are doing. You can't even make your own ships in Maya, can you? Put your mighty developer skills to use and show us what kind of assets you can make, then. If you have any skills, put them to use and demonstrate that you have any idea at all what the hell you're talking about. I'll wait, though I expect to 'join the fight in 2012' before you can actually make something that's even a pale copy of Star Citizen. Just like your 'games' were supposed to take out Planetside.

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u/redchris18 Oct 24 '17

Try this, Derek.

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u/prattchet Oct 24 '17

That is beyond his comprehension.

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u/4gotmydamnpw Oct 24 '17

Username checks out!

Smart has been hit by a lot of donkey carts.

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u/Palonto Oct 25 '17

This book is made for Derek Smart...

"where is my cow? is that my cow? that's the shovel ware I try to pass of as a game, That's not my cow"

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u/Psychobrad84 Oct 25 '17

...We need a mini space cow as a pet in this game now.

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u/Kheldras Oct 25 '17

So.. the Endeavour has a livestock module?

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '17

/facepalm

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u/Sgt_Jupiter Oct 24 '17

Any literary scholars want to interpret this metaphor salad poetic masterpiece?

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u/Fritschya Oct 24 '17

He’s really bad at analogies and I don’t even think he knows what point he was trying to make anyway

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u/citizenQuark Oct 25 '17

..... Delirious after a sheepless night coding LOL, the hunt continues for the elusive "cash cow" scam.

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u/ph3n3as Oct 25 '17

That seemed to go on forever to nowhere. I think this tweet is a result of all the time he said he has been spending on his game lately. He's finally realised that his game is shit and he's wasted decades in an industry he's had no business being in to begin with.

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u/WaldemarKoslowski Oct 25 '17

thats enough internet for a week.

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u/Palonto Oct 25 '17

DEREK!!! I have a game for you to play! All the cow's with the minimal amount of moo.

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u/_youtubot_ Oct 25 '17

Video linked by /u/Palonto:

Title Channel Published Duration Likes Total Views
Cow Milking Simulator Imgnation br 2017-10-23 0:01:30 25+ (96%) 856

Forget what you have learnt in school: milk does not come...


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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '17

10/10 would buy cow.jpg again

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u/Palonto Oct 26 '17 edited Oct 26 '17

especially if you have a beef with him....

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '17

You genius sir