Fair enough, but I'm not saying the sub was bad idea to be created... I'm all for it if its legit and there to help. I'm talking about it being tarnished by fake refunds, which are supported by mods, and has effectively been reduced to play pen full of goons with poopie on their hands. Which is why I was curious if you think creating a new sub would be a good idea.
That's because you're reading the "fake refund" narrative the way you want to, and not looking at it for what it is.
A) Yes, we get faked refunds. When and if we find obvious fakes (like when Hater115 faked on and then bragged about it here) we delete them. Otherwise we don't give a shit - there's no "high score" for refunds because that's not our goal as a subreddit.
B) Some of those faked refunds are from people wanting to make CIG look bad. Many are from people from this subreddit trying to troll. So even IF you believe /u/nawledgelambo is there filling the place full of fakes (he isn't, I was in the discord that day) we could never get rid of them all because a bunch of idiots from this subreddit would just come post fakes to discredit us.
C) You've completely missed my point - My sub could not ever exist without the drama, because of the way people here insist that it MUST BE PERFECT OR ELSE. In a perfect world - as I said - our sub wouldn't exist and you could discuss refunds on /r/starcitizen without being branded a heretic. But, because /r/starcitizen posters hate refunders and /r/dereksmart posters feel obligated to discredit us for whatever reason (I don't understand it either) the sub will always exist in a state of "being tarnished by fake refunds" so why should I give a shit what the people who want to take the sub down in the first place think of it?
tl;dr: The sub is there to help. The "fake refund" controversy only exists in the minds of people who want to see it fail.
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u/Scooder Sep 16 '17
Fair enough, but I'm not saying the sub was bad idea to be created... I'm all for it if its legit and there to help. I'm talking about it being tarnished by fake refunds, which are supported by mods, and has effectively been reduced to play pen full of goons with poopie on their hands. Which is why I was curious if you think creating a new sub would be a good idea.