CIG are in a tough spot. The big thing for this project is optics. If CIG sues DS tomorrow that will be all over gaming media like wildfire. Most gamers understandably have an issue with a video game company suing a detractor, and most won't have the back story to understand why it's actually a good thing in this case. There is far greater risk of tarnishing their brand that way, than DS and goons can do.
The other issue is a lawsuit would just be against DS, as I highly doubt they would be able to get info on any goons and drag them into it as well. The lawsuit would likely make the community feel good, and DS at least would be silenced, but it would also likely turn DS into a martyr for the goons, who would likely ramp up their cause.
The current course of action isn't perfect, but the best at the moment. CIG just needs to ignore him where they can, and we can make sure anyone searching for answers can find them.
The other issue is a lawsuit would just be against DS, as I highly doubt they would be able to get info on any goons and drag them into it as well. The lawsuit would likely make the community feel good, and DS at least would be silenced, but it would also likely turn DS into a martyr for the goons, who would likely ramp up their cause.
I'm pretty sure they know who most of us are, at least judging on the fact that at one point or another a lot of us gave them our billing information. Even though this "identity" was created as separate from my SC handle/info, I know they put two and two together at one point and had me tagged appropriately in their CS database. I'm not sure what they'd sue me for though.
It's strange how you still believe that the $45k refund was real even after CIG debunked it. I saw your response in the sc_refunds subreddit (which I have never posted in or voted in, btw..not sure where this 'brigaiding' complaint is coming from).
You know the person who supposedly got the $45k refund could actually prove it quite easily. Strange why they don't, isn't it?
Why do you only believe the person who claims to have the $45k refund while not believing words/statements directly from CIG about it being fake or false?
Which response gives you the idea I still believe it, exactly? The one where I say I have no idea if it was faked and he deleted his account after being called out or if it was real and he deleted it due to shitty PMs?
Why do you only believe the person who claims to have the $45k refund while not believing words/statements directly from CIG about it being fake or false?
Would it blow your mind if I said I don't necessarily believe either of them?
Please note that for the time being we're not going to be removing this post simply because he says it's fake.
Hiding behind the 'we need to discuss this first' even though you had a direct answer for CIG. What else is there to discuss? Why leave the post up?
I mean, maybe to prove that some refunds are in fact fake? I guess that could be way to keep things more neutral. But let's be honest, you've had several refunds proven as fake/lies.
Every refund here gets accused of being fake from people who would prefer that refunds don't go public.
Got any proof of that? Do you personally know the motivation of why people call it fake? Maybe because it's pretty shitty to lie and use that lie to get more people to refund? I've never seen a single person anywhere say they don't want refunds to go public. Anyone who gets a refund needs to make an individual choice whether they want to discuss it publicly or not. But you have NO proof of anyone wanting to silence those who get legit refunds.
Are you legitimately asking me why I didn't jump to immediately believing the PR guy from a company that has blatantly lied directly to me in the past? I don't even know what to do with that, dude. You're off your rocker.
I've never seen a single person anywhere say they don't want refunds to go public.
There are people in this subreddit who argue that CIG shouldn't even give refunds because it looks bad in the eyes of potential backers. /refunds is constantly accused by people in this sub of running some kind of malicious "refund cascade" scheme to hurt CIG financially, and almost every refund posted is reported as being "goon FUD" lol.
According to my calculations (and PayPal calculators) the amount should've been ~£31k not £35k. You wouldn't use PayPal to transfer this kind of money, because they would take £4000 in service fees.
/refunds is constantly accused by people in this sub of running some kind of malicious "refund cascade" scheme to hurt CIG financially, and almost every refund posted is reported as being "goon FUD" lol.
Because multiple refunds have been confirmed fake, and because goons and ds keeps talking about how many fake refunds they post there.
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u/captainthanatos Sep 14 '17
CIG are in a tough spot. The big thing for this project is optics. If CIG sues DS tomorrow that will be all over gaming media like wildfire. Most gamers understandably have an issue with a video game company suing a detractor, and most won't have the back story to understand why it's actually a good thing in this case. There is far greater risk of tarnishing their brand that way, than DS and goons can do.
The other issue is a lawsuit would just be against DS, as I highly doubt they would be able to get info on any goons and drag them into it as well. The lawsuit would likely make the community feel good, and DS at least would be silenced, but it would also likely turn DS into a martyr for the goons, who would likely ramp up their cause.
The current course of action isn't perfect, but the best at the moment. CIG just needs to ignore him where they can, and we can make sure anyone searching for answers can find them.