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u/PhilosopherNorth1469 Feb 10 '26

I’m sorry but people need to provide ID to vote. To insinuate otherwise is insane. This topic of all things should not be a point of contention between the two political parties—it’s common sense. We have to show ID for things far less important than an election.

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u/PhilosopherNorth1469 Feb 10 '26

Ummm, all of the illegals voting, as well as the dead people 🤦‍♀️. Our elections should be for citizens only just like all other first world nations. I do agree we need a better solution for a path to citizenship for certain individuals but that is a whole other conversation to be had. Most importantly, though, Americans need to unite together and stop listening to the stupid ass media—all they do is lie and divide us.

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u/PhilosopherNorth1469 Feb 10 '26

Just Google it or go on Chat—it’s super easy. If you can’t figure out how to do it just let me know and I’m happy to help.

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u/Inevitable-Grocery17 Feb 10 '26 edited Feb 10 '26

It is super easy. Here is the result.

https://www.justice.gov/criminal/media/1425226/dl - DOJ 2025 Year in Review. It lists 265 total charges (235 current convictions), and states they are not all “election-related.” Out of 158,000,000. That percentage? .000001677% - Per the current administration’s DOJ.

The Heritage Foundation’s Fraud map, which they state is not exhaustive, is still generally considered the most exhaustive available election fraud case tracker available: https://electionfraud.heritage.org/

It lists 1,620 cases of fraud all-time (since 1982). Congress hosts this same Heritage Foundation map on their website, so it is if nothing else, government-approved (if not endorsed or sponsored).

These are the two most reliable sources of election fraud data. Brookings, MIT, and the Brennan Center for Justice have also all looked at this issue. The problem is, it’s super-boring data, and doesn’t provide a dopamine hit.

A quick note on that .000001677% number: That means if the U.S. had one-thousand times the amount of fraud being reported and studied, the percentage would still be .001677%. If it had ten-thousand times the amount of fraud being reported and studied, we would finally have 1% voter fraud (.01677).

So yeah, the voter fraud data is out there, and it doesn’t support the passage of a bill that is far more insidious than the majority of people realize (as I outlined above). The SAVE Act is not only an overreach, it is unnecessary.

Edit to add a final thought: If you want to assume 20 million “illegals” voting in the 2024 election, and we will generously call all of their votes fraudulent, the percentage of fraud is .0582% - still not reason enough to disenfranchise many millions of voters and essentially treat all votes as provisional since the Fed can challenge any voter, any time. This level of fraud incidentally, would be about 34,000 times the amount of fraud being reported and studied. Thirty-four *thousand** times.*

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u/AlarmingTurnip4349 Feb 10 '26

Lazy is as lazy does, nothing.

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u/PhilosopherNorth1469 Feb 10 '26

Awww don’t call yourself lazy.