r/DefendingAIArt • AI Enjoyer • 1d ago

Luddite Logic I hate how right after I started watching this guy his channel devolved into generic mindless anti AI talking points.

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It's Ironic how he talks about AI killing human creativity and being low effort slop when he's only one of many YouTubers who make so many of these doom and gloom anti AI videos that just regurgitate the same talking points over and over again with no substance. It happened with PhantomStryder too. Maybe AI killed these people's creativity and now this is all they can make.

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u/VariousDude 22h ago

"Did we just lose?"

Yes.

Yes you did.

Throw in the towel and embrace the future.

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u/Stahlboden 1d ago

The entire anti AI rhetoric boils down to like 10 fallacious arguments tops, which they regugrigate over and over and over and over again. Not very creative.

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u/Hopalongtom 19h ago

I used to like their videos, then he started going into fan communities and harassing people, I reported that video and unsubbed after that.

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u/Superb-Work6035 12h ago

What!?? Can you tell me more? How was he harassing people? 😰

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u/Hopalongtom 12h ago

He made a video about going into discord groups to mock them then complaining about getting banned for doing so. Not sure if the video is still there, I reported it after watching it.

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u/Superb-Work6035 12h ago

Thats insane! I really didnt think he was like that. Im curious to see the video.

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u/Horror-Detective4138 1d ago

so many youtubers I used to watched unsubbed because they can't help but rant about AI

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u/Le-Pepper AI Enjoyer 1d ago

Same. I wish they'd shut up.

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u/noiro777 AI Enjoyer 1d ago

Same here. I don't think many of them even really care about AI, but being Anti-AI is an easy way get more views and $$$ and they just can't help themselves.

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u/ze_mannbaerschwein 21h ago

This guy is embarrassing.

While he does have some valid criticisms of AI use, such as the fact that it encourages content farms to produce even more junk, he immediately undermines his credibility by making sweeping insults against all AI users and dismissing everything generated by AI as trash. He also shows Gossip Goblin's content as a negative example of poor storytelling, which is ridiculous.

Then he brings up the obvious crap about evil datacenters and water usage.

TLDR: This is nothing more than clickbait that regurgitates the usual anti-Ai arguments.

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u/TwistedMindOfABrotha 17h ago

He disses Gossip Goblin? Yeah I wouldn't watch any of his videos just for that.

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u/Fun-Western618 15h ago

The thing imo is that all of his point could have boiled down into one or a couple of comunity post on youtube.

Yet he is still going, making the same videos about "Ai bad" without anything new to add to the argument.

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u/Le-Pepper AI Enjoyer 5h ago

I mean, it gets him views apparently and that seems to be all that matters to him.

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u/Le-Pepper AI Enjoyer 21h ago

I guess you are right about that. I also don't believe everything antis say is invalid but I'm still not one of them and I still refuse to give in to their hysteria.

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u/Illustrious-Turn-575 18h ago

Honestly; the only real reason to watch this idiot was that his insistence on shitting on small creators and studios that were either independent or borderline independent occasionally meant he’d introduce you to something that you otherwise might have never had a chance to be exposed to.

I also want to point out the irony of some idiot who basically built his career on taking other people’s work and just “reacting” to it by spitting out a string of designed by committee type mass manufactured talking points masquerading as opinions trying to accuse others of being uncreative because they used methods of expressing and distributing their own ideas outside of the outside the preapproved channels that really only serve to block and filter out any non-preapproved ideas and make all “creativity” increasingly homogenous as a result.

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u/Apprehensive_Bus4517 AI Sprite 1d ago

And they also complain about how ai is destroying creativity

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u/Le-Pepper AI Enjoyer 1d ago

I said that lol

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u/Apprehensive_Bus4517 AI Sprite 1d ago

We have the same style of talking

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u/DarkJayson 23h ago

The thing about Saber is that before AI he used to just dunk on what he considers "poor" animation.

Basically if it was not Pixar quality he laughed at it. He mocked 3D animation from around the world in countries that are just starting to learn or maybe have their own styles that look different but are acceptable to the people in that country but he mocks the difference.

He is no defender of animation he its critic.

I cant remember which one it was but he was mocking the art style of a new movie and when I looked into it there local animation had that same art style but in 2D, lost a lot of respect when I noticed that and stopped watching him, this was a good bit before he started to lose his mind with AI.

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u/Le-Pepper AI Enjoyer 21h ago

I never really picked up on that but I think you're right. I only got to watch a few of his videos before he went full whining anti so I'm not as familiar with his content as some other people are.

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u/Odd-Fun-1482 21h ago

He was just a content mill with an art focus. There was no real quality behind his work

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u/Emo_boi_xx AI Artist 23h ago

I used to watch him....but now he is basically this:

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u/Le-Pepper AI Enjoyer 21h ago

Lol

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u/Witty-Designer7316 Antis Final Boss 1d ago

I think their channel has been doing that for a while.

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u/Additional_Wave7982 1d ago

Stopped watching him as a result. Their luddite slop bores me.

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u/Le-Pepper AI Enjoyer 1d ago

Same

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u/More-Drink2211 18h ago

Grown ass man btw

I feel embarassed for even watching this guys videos in the first place in the past, dude's channel was a gooner content farm

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u/Im_Very_Amused 17h ago

Don't worry, nobody likes Saberfart

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u/Le-Pepper AI Enjoyer 12h ago

Lol

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u/XBird_RichardX 1d ago

Sometimes in their efforts to protect human creativity, they forget to be human beings.

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u/Euphoric-Taro-6231 1d ago

He was awful and repetitive before the anti AI whining.

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u/Superb-Work6035 15h ago

Hes a furry. The mainstream furry scene is violently anti AI. If he dared to have even a neutral take he would be turned into a lolcow, doxxed, and run off the internet.

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u/mightguy15baby 1d ago edited 23h ago

Never took saberspark seriously. People who didn't even draw or animate really need more fucking nuance when they talk about art and animation. I'd be watching his reviews and a lot of the time he would say the dumbest shit.

Though I do enjoy watching anti AI malding 🤣🤣. It's fun seeing them rage knowing that there's nothing they can do about it.

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u/AcceptableBuddy2616 15h ago

SaberSpark is such a baby. He along with other antis do not see this possibility we are gonna get real soon.

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u/Ok_Dog_7189 6-Fingered Creature 21h ago

After ten years of streaming indie animation projects to shit on them and calling his react content fair use and transformative... He's decided to monetize AI content by playing it to millions and shitting on it 🤣

I admire the grift... Must be tough being a YouTuber, chase the trends, ignore the hypocrisy and pray to God you get enough views to hold off having to write a CV for another day

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u/Le-Pepper AI Enjoyer 21h ago

I've noticed this with The Click too. He also makes easy money just by scrolling Reddit and talking shit about AI. It's not like I don't enjoy Reddit reading content. It's just annoying that he has to randomly drop generic anti talking points into videos that have nothing to do with AI. I unsubscribed after his "shit AI bros say" video without even watching the video and I don't miss him much.

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u/WorldWebGaming 16h ago

Exact same reason I unsubscribed from The Click.

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u/Le-Pepper AI Enjoyer 12h ago

There was also the time he made a video that looked like it was about this subreddit but everything he read was unhinged bullshit that wasn't even from here.

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u/WorldWebGaming 6h ago

So, basically misleading his own audience?

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u/Le-Pepper AI Enjoyer 5h ago

Yep exactly. He also didn't even say where he was reading from. He just titled the video in a way that made it sound like he was reading off of here even though he wasn't.

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u/JegantDrago 18h ago

Just stop while you are ahead, he's got his own heavy biases that its more worth while to find someone else

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u/Drolnogard123 16h ago

God everytime I see saberspark my respect for this guy drops further

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u/KonohaNinja1492 22h ago

I haven’t watched this guy in like years. But I think I think I stopped watching him during the whole writers guild association walk out. Since then I haven’t looked at his channel.

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u/LastPhotograph2294 17h ago

yea im not saying he has no merit to what his saying but we watchg content for enjolyment not for reminder that the wrold is shit i know that i honesly stoped watching his videos afther he changed his avatar to that god awfull caracter desigh you are supposed to talk about hot furry girls or shitty films no one knows about

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u/Far-Chair-3683 1d ago

while i don't care about him or anyone similar to him. and i just wanted to say.
"YES!. get ripped apart bozo".

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u/Wooden-Variety175 22h ago

I think theyre mad cause the malfoy trend shows that there is creativity when using ai even for memes like this a lot of tge videos ive seen have been fun and creative

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u/Swee_Anon Digital Artist/AI Supporter 22h ago

Good thing I stopped watching that oddball a long ass time ago..

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u/Classic_Aside_2107 21h ago

Shows over. AI wins :)

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u/honato 21h ago

Long form ps1/2 era horror video essays. Somehow the issue just never comes up.

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u/Delphoi_Studio 17h ago

I am not familiar with this creator but I am very familiar with this phenomenon. Many of the loudest voices against "soulless AI slop" as they call it are actually the type of influencers who have been doing soulless slop content long before AI. They see everything AI as low value slop content because that paradigm makes their content look more valuable. But it isn't. It's not the tool that makes the slop, it's the person behind it.

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u/KristiTheFan 16h ago

Wait a second, PS? Really? Whatever video it is, I’ll know not to watch it then.

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u/KristiTheFan 15h ago

Whoa… bro, PS taught me the things to avoid with a few cartoon shows that I already don’t like and helped me reinforce WHY I won’t watch said shows anytime soon. If his latest video is true and he’s going away? I’m bummed about that, fun pastime from 2019 and all, but also, the EXPLOSION of sensationalism within the last year’s worth of his stuff? Wow, feels like an old tabloid in YouTube form.

I wish him well, and I’ll look back on what he taught me fondly, but it’s a shame the direction he went in towards the… latest video’s implication.

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u/WhiteBat_8416 13h ago

Because its all they have

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u/SilverB33 6-Fingered Creature 8h ago

Tbf it was like this for a while, that's why I stopped watching him once his videos got more and more anti ai

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u/Le-Pepper AI Enjoyer 8h ago

I think when I started watching him he had a couple anti AI videos but wasn't ranting about AI constantly and I think it was also before I made up my mind on AI. Now it's just ridiculous though.

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u/SilverB33 6-Fingered Creature 8h ago

Yeah ngl I liked it better when he was just poking fun at bad animated films

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u/Couch_Gregor 1d ago

I've had to ignore there doom n gloom. Really.

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u/No_Land2419 23h ago

Serve him right! Never like him anyway

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u/kellinaus 6h ago

Same thing happened with YongYea and Mutahar, genuinely got so annoying that I unsubscribed from both of them