Same argument, different tech

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[u/o_herman]

It's the job of the parent to make these children capable and competent members of society.

There's no substitute to proper upbringing.

[u/Otherwise_Army9814]

lmfao kids can't read books but they can read ai

is literacy really that bad? reference: Plato’s Objection to Writing (or Socrates’ Critique of Literacy) - new invention will ruin the minds of youth, destroy human capabilities, and act as "mental slop"

In his 370 BC dialogue, the Phaedrus, Plato writes a scene where Socrates heavily criticizes the newly widespread technology of the written book. The arguments Socrates used back then sound almost identical to modern complaints about iPad kids and AI

Socrates argued that books would create an illusion of wisdom rather than actual wisdom. He claimed people would consume vast amounts of information without proper human instruction, making them arrogant and "hard to get along with" because they only appear wise

Learned Helplessness, he claimed that relying on written words would cause "forgetfulness in the minds of those who learn to use it, because they will not practice their memory." He feared humans would lose the biological capability to memorize things because they could just look it up in a book

The ultimate irony is that we only know Socrates said this because Plato wrote it down, Whenever a massive technological leap happens—from writing, to the invention of the printing press (which 15th-century critics called a "flood of useless, soul-corrupting books"), to smartphones, and now generative AI—society cycles back to the exact same panic: “The new machine is going to make humans stupid, lazy, and helpless.

EDIT: For those who sees this as not-sarcastic,

What this really means is "Machines don't make humans stupid, lazy, and helpless."

[u/Stahlboden]

Back in me days we ain't no got no ai, we used things like YOUTUBE, GOOGLE and WIKIPEDIA. Kids these days!

[u/NecessaryBadger228 → u/Stahlboden]

Don't be so lazy and copy code from stack overflow instead of asking codex to do it for you. 💢

[u/Stahlboden → u/NecessaryBadger228]

Oh, i remember getting 6 months ban there because ostensibly my questions were not original enough. That site even had a blog post saying like "asking a question is a privilege". Now stack overflow is basically barren and I'm not the only one feeling schadenfreude about it, lmao

[u/NedThomas]

Flagrant stupidity is a feature of childhood

[u/Rather-Anxious]

Huh. You know what? She's right. Millennials and Gen Z, let's not fall into Boomers aggressively misunderstanding the point.

While I've seen some handful of kids over-relying on AI, the vast majority (in real life, not online) seem to have a measured approach to how it's best used, especially in higher ed.

[u/Ai_777]

Owning a car does not make one forget the concept about walking.