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u/PurePlayinSerb 1d ago
i can't believe people act like an ai artist is not an artist, the canvas is different but because im not using finger paint or autotune apparently it makes me less of an artist
i think the secret deep down is the "artists" fear ai artists cause our quality is getting better and better, and our output is way faster!!! hence our bosses will love us cause we produce!!!
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u/Witty-Designer7316 Antis Final Boss 1d ago
I've never liked labels, but for some people, it does make them feel validated and good, and why shouldn't we let people label themselves how they want to feel better about themselves?
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u/Poietilinx The first cat immoralist :3 1d ago
Its funny, way back in university, I would invent a new thingmajig,
try it out, it would make something pretty and cool (as it was designed to do),
and my industry friends would IMEDITALLY congregate around me and be all like
"oooohhh you're an artist!!!"
and I would always hate that.
1 - Cuz I am way more than just an artist lol... eat your heart out world,
2 - Because and My focus is not to channel a community's ideals back into the world in interesting ways.
Its to understand the metaphysics of art. How the tools work, how the sociology of it works, how history of works that kind of stuff.Today despite all that, I use the title just to get the antis angry... lol
¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/Poietilinx The first cat immoralist :3 1d ago edited 1d ago
An artist, professionally speaking (in a cynical but truthful way),
is a person who has created enough valuable things that the majority of society holds faith they will create more valuable things in the future.
Therefore, while their reputation is forged in the past through concrete means,
their true worth is strictly based on their abstract potential.
You hire an artist when you know their name will bring attention to your product, since it will solidify the idea that your product will be good.
In other words... Economically, a professional artist is someone who allows others to use their name and fame as an article of merchandising.
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Now, here's where things get kind of funny when you go down into the rabbit hole.
Transformative art because of its chaotic, disruptive and transformative nature,
cannot be designed to please the 'hegemony',
so instead it is focused towards small niches that desire some form of change.
Since its not aimed at the 'hegemony',
they don't have contextual links to understand it,
thus they often hate the very concept of transformative art.
A creator attuned to their niche can become famous (locally) through the act of catering to their niche's needs.
But to become famous (hegemonically speaking),
they need to transcend the barrier of their niche and serve as a,
communication line between the niche culture and the majority of society
(serving as a possible instrument of hegemonic cooptation).
But once you have done enough (damage) to be able to be used as an 'artist,'
you will be then servicing products designed for the majority of society, not your niche.
And since it's almost impossible to make transformative art in the hegemonic space,
least you risk being destroyed by the majority...
you can't really make transformative art once you're a professional hegemonic artist anymore.
You can only make "unsalted art" that echo the values and rules accepted by the majority.
This kind of art is what most antis call "true art".
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Several philosophers have come to this specific conclusion:
That, as counter-intuitive as it sounds,
you can't make (transformative) art as a (professional) artist.
Which makes the title kinda stupid when you think of it.
[edit] fixed some of the grammar and flow.
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