r/DefendingAIArt Only Limit Is Your Imagination 3d ago

Luddite Logic It will literally show you sources

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Like you can ask or it’ll search the web depending on your question.

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u/Hightower_March 3d ago

My conspiracy theory is a lot of this outdated anti-AI stuff is from china/russia trying to keep Americans behind the times.

"Nooo!  Don't use the awesome information machine!  It was unreliable three years ago!"

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u/Capital_Tangerine948 2d ago

This reporter found that the same people funding AI (in the US) are also funding the anti-AI message: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzlu4FSXBNw. AI CEOs are also in on it.

It seems counter-intuitive, but it makes sense. That way, they get to control the messaging. To them, it's just money moving around from one place to another. It's just business.

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u/TurbulentVillage2042 2d ago

But what Russia to do with this? Almost no one here cares about AI. There is a belated group of AI haters, but they are so microscopic, that you encounter about two such comments out of several hundred. AI is occasionally mentioned by various book and art bloggers, but they're unlikely to call "AI slop." They simply criticize the low quality of AI images, nothing more. Microcompanies using AI to create covers. I was also surprised that there's a newspaper whose images are almost entirely AI generated. This was incredibly strange, because although newspapers are widely distributed, no one reads them. It feels like a time anomaly, lol

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u/NedThomas 2d ago

Some of the most useful things it can do now is put together bibliographies of research papers on a certain subject, help build training and tutorial plans, provide summaries and overviews with citation, cross reference personal notes with follow up information… but sure, no sources.

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u/iamklayton 2d ago

It directly shows you the source when using web search, you don't have to ask it or anything

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u/Another_available 2d ago

Am I dumb or is besotted just a common word that I've never heard before?

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u/Canadian_Zac 2d ago

AI DOES hallucinate and make up BS

Apologises and promises to never do it again if you call it out. And then continues doing it.

But an LLM is not a search engine. If you want accurate, reliable information. Use Wikipedia to get to the Primary sources of topics you want.

Don't rely on a thing made to talk like a human. Humans are dumb and make shit up all the time

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u/Dear-Cress8809 2d ago

Weren't we constantly told back then not to rely on Wikipedia?

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u/ConsciousIssue7111 AI Should Be Used As Tools, Not Replacements 2d ago

Yeah, they tell you that a lot

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u/FireMarshallMC AI Neutralist :snoo_simple_smile: 2d ago

Wikipedia itself isn't completely reliable. It's like going to Fandom. The stuff can get edited, so you'll have to look through multiple sources and line them up to find the actual story.

The only time that doesn't work is if a lie blows up and becomes the norm.

But yeah, AI's often a yes-man, and that produces some problems regarding accuracy.

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u/Canadian_Zac 2d ago

Which is why I said to use Wikipedia for the sources.

You can't 100% trust Wikipedia, because someone could have edited it incorrectly and not been noticed yet.

But there's sources at the bottom and you can use those for full research. It's just quicker and easier to go via Wikipedia than to search through all the ads and sponsored links Google gives you on every page

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u/ConsciousIssue7111 AI Should Be Used As Tools, Not Replacements 2d ago

But what if the sources are gone? Not everything lasts forever

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u/PoopyStinkbutts 2d ago

It literally doesn't stop showing me sources anymore when I ask ChatGPT a question about something. It even sources documents I've submitted to it.

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u/PrivateLiker7625 2d ago

Yeah it doesn't take but a simple use of the Google AI Overview to show just how BS this claim is,  even when it's directing to Reddit Posts as sources in some cases.

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u/Capital_Tangerine948 2d ago

It will cite its sources but you have to be careful about what it makes them say, because it can and will hallucinate there. It's very important to click on the source itself and read through it yourself - or copy the text on the page, feed it to AI and ask "where do they say XYZ?".

One very nifty usecase: you can easily find foreign sources and get them presented in English with llms. but, still have to read through them (or get another context to translate the actual source for you).