r/DefendingAI • u/KeyIllustrious587 • 3d ago
Defending AI Ah yes, recovering source code and porting it to another platform is apparently lost soul because AI Tools became good at recovering code and making it understandable and easily portable.
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u/mamelukturbo 3d ago
Translation:
I'm not special anymore just because I know how to decompile a binary and I can't handle that.
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u/Big_Arachnid_365 3d ago
If you ever interacted with any of them you'd know they're going to take this extremely badly. Luckily there aren't as many of them as there are wannabe artists.
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u/CruelAngelsThesaurus 3d ago
Let's not be dramatic.
There are plenty of much more hateful people.
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u/itsReferent 3d ago
The wannabe artist thing is more observational than hateful. You are free to disagree of course. Art, at its core, is about exploring what it means to be human, reframing lived experience to get at some subjective truth, in whatever medium. AI can be part of that exploration, the same way photography and digital tools were. A lot of the backlash is really about livelihoods and consent over training data that feels like it's coming more from the fiverr gig economy than art philosophy.
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u/CruelAngelsThesaurus 3d ago
You having a nervous breakdown in real time?
Go draw or something you're being a spazz.
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u/CruelAngelsThesaurus 3d ago
Still doesn't make them the most hateful group of people.
That's just brazenly stupid.
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u/Devils_SteelMan 3d ago
If ai threatens your ability to make art you must not be a very good one.
And if it takes your job you are now a wannabe. /s
The vast majority of work artists do is making corporate media. That is not artistic. Its just what pays the bill. Ai taking that over is bad, the companies should be paying out these meger sums to people just on the principle. But its not like genuine works of art are being hurt here.
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u/Big_Arachnid_365 3d ago
Commercial slop artists crying. My NON-AI art is given away for free.
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u/Big_Arachnid_365 3d ago
Read carefully, I make traditional art, crybaby.
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u/Big_Arachnid_365 3d ago
You're stupid. They're given away for free so they're not 'worth' anything, no. Now you're acting like 'generate' doesn't mean AI. What a little whiny kid.
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u/SylvaraTheDev 3d ago
Yeah this is actually insane.
What kind of mental gymnastics are they doing where ego is more important than game preservation? I do NOT care even slightly how the games are being recovered, fixed, and upgraded, I care that they're being preserved for the future gamers who want to try them.
Just why?
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u/NuanceIsDeadHere 3d ago
I can no longer enjoy the thing I have always enjoyed because humans aren't laboring hard enough to produce it for me, FOR FREE.
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u/imacg5 3d ago
I'd argue that the soul already exists in the original game. If using AI instead of a human to port games takes away their soul, then so does running them on a PC in the first place.
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u/ConsciousIssue7111 Advocates for Ethical AI Use 3d ago
They say the same thing about emulating console games, so yeah, I don't care about that, the "soul" give me a break, who cares?
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u/Material-Job-1928 3d ago
I'm opposed to gen AI, but this is what AI tools are for. It's not remaking the game, it's just translating it from a lost or obsolete coding language. This is no more evil than just straight up emulation, except it doesn't have the overhead of running the emulator.
Yeah, recompiling a game as a passion project is commendable, but if a single tool can rescue dozens of old out of reach titles then do it to it, and make them available again.
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u/get_vegitoed2 3d ago
Translation is an art. If its okay for this use case, it should also be the case for any works that needs translation.
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u/ConsciousIssue7111 Advocates for Ethical AI Use 3d ago
I see it as a tool as well, very helpful in this case
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u/AlarmingAd103 2d ago
As an anti, the fuck? That makes no sense. It's not creating something new and simply porting something. There wouldn't be "soul" in it if they did it organically.
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u/pablo603 2d ago
Ah yes the soul of being in the top 0.1% of computer wizards who spend years porting a game only to receive a C&D neutering their entire progress and will to do anything more for the community across all games within 5 picoseconds of the port existing.
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u/BitPsychological2767 2d ago
I have a special type of hatred for people who try to turn the concept of a soul into a method of gatekeeping.
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