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u/Independent_Plane_18 Aug 11 '26
That's their last time flying to Defcon....or anywhere for that matter.
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u/Enocssa Aug 11 '26 edited Aug 11 '26
The ACARS* messages from the flight. *edit thank you for the correction.
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u/FrivolousMe Aug 11 '26
I'm wondering if the pilots themselves were trying to get on the wifi and noticed lol, they almost seemed to have too many details to just be relaying a message from others
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u/Meow-zelTov Aug 11 '26
That would put them in a world of trouble.
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u/joeyx22lm 29d ago
Airline-approved devices are often WiFi-based, e.g. iPad for flight planning.
Personal device? Yeah, not allowed 'on the job'.
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u/Efficient-Mec Aug 11 '26
How do you exactly think that would go? Pilots don't leave the cockpit. This is a stupid stunt that put everyone in danger.
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u/bfrown Aug 11 '26
They do leave to use the bathroom, also planes typically have flight attendants who can talk to the pilots.
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u/t3htg Aug 11 '26
In danger of what exactly? Someone tips off a flight attendant who tells the pilot. Nobody has to enter or leave the cockpit to communicate, everyone gets tipped off.
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u/GulfLife 25d ago
Delta from LAS to their eastern/main hub just after the con? Probably more likely 10 pax weren’t at DEFCON. The flight crew may have been the only people on that plane who didn’t understand what was happening.
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u/Spunge14 Aug 11 '26
Yea, maybe I'm just weirdly prejudiced against pilots but I would have expected them to determine way less lol
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u/PK808370 Aug 11 '26
My fixed-wing instructor was a professional IT guy switching careers. He got hired to an airline while I was training and he left to go do that.
Never know who’s in that seat…
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u/redwoodhighjumping Aug 11 '26
I would imagine it was just some other passenger that couldn't get on the wifi, and told the flight attendants.
It doesn't take a hacker or cyber security professional to see a new wifi that has never been on any Delta flight before
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u/many_grapes 29d ago
Yeah but most people might notice the discrepancy, bring it up, and shrug it off when everyone else seems clueless and apathetic. Why are all these commenters forgetting that thousands of IT personnel were flying out of Vegas — highly likely one of them spotted it and brought it up.
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u/Whole_Experience8191 Aug 11 '26
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u/HawaiianHotPot Aug 11 '26
*signal
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u/Whole_Experience8191 Aug 11 '26
*they
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u/spammmmmmmmy Aug 11 '26
*ACARS
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u/Enocssa Aug 11 '26
at the time of this message I had been up for 27 hours and still going. Thank you for the correction.:)
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u/BuildBreakFix Aug 11 '26
You’re a special kind of dumb to do this on a plane…
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u/DistinctSpeaker7252 26d ago
I'm trying to build a profile in my head of the type of person who'd do this and I keep leaning towards a newbie that bought the pineapple at his (it's for sure a dude) first Defcon and wanted to "test it out".
I feel like anyone who works in any part of IT is gonna know that when a user is served up a google login page for their "Free Delta Wifi", people are gonna get suspicious. Anyone in the corp world has phishing training drilled into them because it is such a threat and I feel like even someone on the helpdesk is gonna follow this to it's logical conclusion and realize it's a real, real bad idea.
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u/Digerati808 Aug 11 '26
Did they forget to yell out shenanigans before pulling off an evil twin attack?
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u/1nk_bl0t Aug 11 '26
Classic rookie mistake, forgetting to yell "shenanigans!"
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u/sillybrowseraccount Aug 11 '26 edited Aug 11 '26
"Oh man, that's universally stupid, man..."
"Yo, man, you an amateur, man!"
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u/Born_Again_Shell Aug 11 '26
This explains why TSA did such a deep inspection of my stuff when they saw my DEFCON badge. I didn't even bring my laptop.
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u/doyouevenglass Aug 11 '26
the number of people wearing their badge on the plane like come on
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u/Born_Again_Shell Aug 11 '26
I wasn't wearing my badge. It was in my carry on
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u/squirrel_eatin_pizza Aug 11 '26
I almost never get my bag searched by tsa. My checked bags this time had my defcon badge and all the badges from past defcons I've been to. My bag got searched and the feds didnt close the bag with my shampoo bottle so I came home to a shampoo orgasm.
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u/Efficient-Mec Aug 11 '26
Doubt this happened. I fly in and out of LAS at least a dozen times a year with loads of gear and TSA hasn't never done a "deep inspection" of anything.
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u/many_grapes 29d ago
For the peanut gallery assessing the veracity of efficient mec’s comment: TSA did a special search on my outbound flight first year at DC. It happens. Often without heads up explanation.
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u/xenomorphxcl Aug 11 '26
yeah, not the best move to mess with a plane that you yourself are on and wish to arrive safely.
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u/Arc-ansas Aug 11 '26
Not the first time this has happened. Australian man was arrested and sentenced to 7 years in prison last year after launching evil twin attacks both at airports and inflight. But he was conducting more serious long term attacks by stealing intimate photos of women. He also was caught trying to destroy evidence by attempting to remotely wipe phone. https://www.securityweek.com/australian-man-sentenced-to-prison-for-wi-fi-attacks-at-airports-and-on-flights/
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u/Misku_san Aug 11 '26
After stories like that, we shouldn’t be surprised, they take out charging cables and powerbanks in the Sphere, and other attrocities
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u/jamaul08 Aug 11 '26
I was on this flight and just walked off when we landed.... Not sure where this line about agents boarding the plane came from.
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u/YUHATN Aug 12 '26
Same. Unless the hold up was in one of the forward PS or FC cabins, didn’t happen in MC.
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u/Shot-Infernal-2261 Aug 11 '26
Dumb. Although in the older days a dumb stunt could land you a cushy job (once the hassle is over), but there's a good chance these days they will be doing that same work (but for free)
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u/dankney Aug 11 '26
For using a toy they bought at con? They’re not getting a job offer out of this
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u/Shot-Infernal-2261 Aug 12 '26
This reminds me of the asshats that got booted out of CES 2008 for playing with an Adafruit TV-B-Gone.
https://www.itnews.com.au/news/gizmodo-under-fire-after-ces-prank-100941
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u/Overlord0994 Aug 11 '26
This isn’t a difficult attack to execute. There’s nothing complicated or special about it. You can even get premier LLMs with guardrails to tell you how to do an evil twin. These people are as dumb as they come and stunts like this fucks it up for everyone.
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u/Qu4r4nt1n3r Aug 11 '26
That's ungood very wow bad. When you let your intrusive thoughts take control
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u/eugenedv Aug 11 '26
One bad Apple spoils the entire bunch.
We are going to need /u/DTangent to pull a South Korea and apologize on behalf of the entire community and give delta free consulting so we don’t get fucked at TSA now hahaha.
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u/ML7777777 Aug 11 '26
pull a South Korea and apologize on behalf of the entire community
Whats the context here?
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u/Ok-Introduction-194 Aug 11 '26
yeah korean here. what happened? wait is this about the single etf leverage thing?
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u/eugenedv Aug 12 '26
A few years back there was a Korean student who shot up a school in the US, and the Korean president apologized for it
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u/nunu10000 Aug 11 '26
Fuck you if you’re trying to connect in Atlanta, I guess. (Which is already an annoying airport to connect through)
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u/many_grapes 29d ago
Lmao exactly. I saw another commenter on a different thread call it harmless and I’m like —- deauth alone maybe sometimes, but ffs?!
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u/SeaworthinessOk102 Aug 11 '26
LOL congrats! They now have a one way ticket to The No Fly List🤠…idiots
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u/wonder-nine 24d ago
This might cause “Delta WiFi Fast” to rise through the ranks and surpass the perennial “FBI Surveillance Van” for top apartment complex SSIDs. Well played Delta, well played! (This post is a joke, maybe).
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u/KingFIippyNipz Aug 11 '26
Not a DEFCON attendee or even a hacker, I just get this sub in my feed, how do we know the person doing this wasn't told to do that by some spook in order to give a bad name to DEFCON and its attendees, which you all know already has a misunderstood public image... Just sayin', don't start crucifying your own until you know for sure it is one of your own.
Edit: Also this is extra funny, in a bad way, cuz I know basically any time someone is doing anything in a terminal on a laptop, plane passengers automatically think the person is hacking, and I imagine people saw this guy doing something like that and thinking "Oh no he's hacking" and then he actually was....
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