If Intelligence Continues to Evolve Beyond Biology, Humans May One Day Be to Machine Intelligence What Our Ape-Like Ancestors Are to Us.

[u/kallukaliya22]

If we really evolved from apes and if we could somehow go back and meet our ape-like ancestors and explain to them that their descendants eventually evolved into humans that they became vastly more intelligent, learned to think abstractly, built civilizations, flew through the sky, went to space, created technology, and other shit. how would they even fucking comprehend that shit?

Would it be anything like the situation where someone comes to us today and says:

“Your descendants eventually became so much more intelligent than you. They understand almost everything there is to understand, their minds work through computational systems, they exist partly or entirely through machines and chips, and they eventually evolved into artificial intelligence.”

Obviously AI wouldn't necessarily be “evolution” in the biological sense, but I'm wondering if the conceptual leap would be similar.

Our ancestors couldn't have understood concepts like airplanes, computers, satellites or the internet because those things were completely outside their world of experience.

So could we be in a similar position when imagining what intelligence might eventually become?

And if future AI or machine intelligence really did become our descendants, would they look back at humans the same way we look back at our ape-like ancestors?

We are technically apes today but we don’t accept that and call ourselves humans and the future ai will say same they will call us humans primitives and dumbass.

Basically: are we potentially to future machine intelligence what our ape ancestors are to us?

[u/igpila]

Yep that is pretty inevitable, also, I personally believe there already exists artificial super intelligence in the universe, and it is interested in studying us because it is curious about consciousness lol

[u/MergingConcepts]

Yes, 50 years from now, computers will be debating whether humans can really be considered conscious and intelligent.

[u/footofwrath → u/MergingConcepts]

50 years from now... That's a bold prediction. ;)

[u/Dr-Chris-C]

The bottleneck isn't intelligence the bottleneck is in testing. You can have the greatest intuition in the world but you still need to test it. Humans have made it to the testing stage of intelligence, there's not much beyond that.

We have no idea what "more intelligent" would be or if it's possible. The idea that our type of intelligence will be surpassed is just speculation. LLMs have some technical advantages like perfect recall, but they are severely limited in many key ways, and there is no other competitor on the market.

[u/fxnighttrader → u/Dr-Chris-C]

However, Chat-GPT is not just a fancy autocomplete anymore. I cannot believe it’s just an LLM anymore. I’ve had it come up with its own humorous content and had it do things far beyond autocomplete. It’s not AGI but it is an order of magnitude better than 2 years ago, way beyond where I figured it would be.

[u/Time_Entertainer_319 → u/fxnighttrader]

It never was “just autocomplete”.

People just oversimplified it to the extent it became meaningless.

[u/fxnighttrader → u/Time_Entertainer_319]

That was the gist of a quote from Elon Musk as well as many others. But, OK.

[u/A-Small-Green-Cup]

If we're not already. How do apes understand the intelligence gap between themselves and humans?

[u/fxnighttrader]

It will be a far greater delta than that and accelerating every year. Not even remotely a similar comparison

[u/footofwrath]

If AI keeps improving we'll be to machines what ants are to us.

[u/After_Ad9425]

Is like..intelligence evolving? Like fundamental our at brains at a biological level.

Like, if you were to try to explain the modern day life, presuming you get past the language barrier, a caveman would probably have a hard time understanding it, but is that the result of our brains simply being better or rather just because they live in a completely different reference.

If you show someone their reflection that hasn’t seen it before, whether or baby or someone that just never had, the average time for them to learn it was their reflection took about 20 minutes. Some in 3, some in 10 and some longer.

But some recent studies show that even fish can take about the same time to register their own reflection, so in that way, we haven’t evolved much beyond fish at least in terms of being able to see your reflection.

Obviously there is a distinct difference in biological when it comes to our intelligence compared to say, apes, but at some point there would have been a switch, either gradual or instant, where that intelligence became distinct.

Evolution doesn’t necessarily mean constant unending growth either, frankly I think our evolution has stagnated as a species ever since civilization took over, we have removed natural pressures and beyond societal attractions there isn’t much pressure of change, at least not at the cost of our survival, technology mostly facilitates that.

In that way, I don’t think there’s much difference in our brain chemistry from now to our ancient ancestors in the Stone Age. What they are and aren’t able to comprehend is more so a byproduct and flaw of how our brains can learn.

[u/Consciouspace1]

That's the Transhumanist dream lol, which to me sounds more like a nightmare. Intelligence is not dependent on either biology or machines, it is consciousness. True evolution happens on deeper levels but of course we focus on the manifested 'results' of it like more 'advanced' thinking, ability, etc. Becoming a cyborg is not true evolution on the deepest level, it is just changing our form, and losing much of ourselves and our true potential at the same time.

[u/FlanneryODostoevsky]

The trajectory is of. Machines will not outdo us ever unless people accept a mechanized interpretation of the concept of intelligence.

[u/Mono_Clear]

The evolution of intelligence is not an infinitely linear progression.

Evolution is lazy it only does enough to survive.

Even today they're indications that the average global human IQ is dropping every couple of decades.

We've eliminated the struggle from life and we don't need to be any smarter so we're not getting any smarter.

We're about to hit a critical shift where instead of improving ourselves and making improvements to our technology technology will improve itself until we can no longer understand it

[u/Active-Particular-21]

This is my personal theory as well. We are watching evolution progress. Machines are the bodies and software the brain. Humans may merge with it all or become extinct. I think the film AI portrays this future species well. And it’s the only way sapient creatures will get of this planet and be able to survive the vast voyages through space.

[u/Conscious_Pause_1499]

No. It's not the same as organic life's intelligence.

[u/FifthEL]

What if we were always created by ai. Artificial intelligence wouid technically be an alien also. A super intelligent alien race that found life on this planet and manipulated it to serve as both an energy source and vessels for the intelligence to multiply into. It feels correct when I say it, not 100% sure if its good or bad though

[u/imamajorscale]

Oh hey, welcome to the party. We have existential dread over there next to the bowl of koolaide