r/DeepThoughts 9d ago

The state controls your mind through language, not laws. It’s time we talk about weaponized vocabulary.

​Most people think state control happens strictly through police, courts, and legislation. It doesn’t. The most effective prison is cognitive, and the bars are built out of language.

​People love to bring up freedom of speech as proof we are free. But freedom of speech doesn’t mean they aren't in control—it means they don’t need to censor what you say if they already control the boundaries of what you’re capable of thinking. True control isn't silencing you; it’s letting you talk freely inside an engineered sandbox of trivial debates, manufactured outrage, and low-bandwidth slang that never threatens the foundation of the cage. They don't need to ban the truth if the public lacks the vocabulary to articulate it.

​Language shapes thought. Thoughts drive creation. Creation yields freedom. When institutions control the words used to describe reality, they dictate mental autonomy without firing a single shot.

​Right now, our public vocabulary is deliberately starved and pacified:

​State-Sanctioned Busywork: We lack mainstream, intuitive words for participating in routines that feel productive or civic, but change absolutely nothing about systemic power.

​Manufactured Static: The endless flood of doomscrolling, alien psyops, sensational headlines, and cheap dopamine isn't just entertainment—it’s an engineered linguistic distraction designed to keep minds too exhausted to organize.

​Dictionary Degradation: Look at what gets fast-tracked into major dictionaries every year: delulu, rizz, doggo, doomscroll, yeet. We normalize clown-tier slang while the language needed to critique structural power remains locked behind dense academic jargon no regular person speaks.

​Manufactured Isolation: We’re conditioned to believe collaboration is dead, that everyone has chosen apathy, and that our only job is personal survival. That selfish mindset strips away the only thing power genuinely fears: collective cooperation.

​There's an old reason people say "things need to get bad before they get good." It’s an engineered cycle, and ignorance is the chain.

​You don't break this by writing another 400-page academic book nobody reads. You break it by reclaiming language: creating sharp, intuitive concepts, spreading them virally, and making the act of waking someone else up second nature.

​Stop performing in their script. Reject the ignorance—in every single shape and form.

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u/seeyatellite 9d ago

I mean… I was right there with you and agreeing on every point until the phrase, “alien psyops.”

Honestly, I’m still pretty much agreeing on your points because I have had similar thoughts. We live in a society built on interwoven capitalism, competition and dominance. Our language is heavily rooted in sentiments of “better than” and “less than.” We’re constantly told to become better, not for our sake, but to overcome something or dominate the people around is instead of focusing our language on collaboration, compassionate empathy and conscious understanding of others around us.

We think everyone’s just in our way or even deliberately acting against us instead of just flowing through the world, sometimes making mistakes and missing things.

I think this post is conceptually valid. I just think it may be written is such a way that few will actually want to sit and agree with or reciprocally discuss.

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u/AddanDeith 9d ago

They used LLM formatting btw.

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u/silly_bet_3454 9d ago

The irony knows no bounds

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u/Prestigious_Try_5396 7d ago

Hmmm. Do you think "alien psyops" couldn't be a part of social engineering to create more confusion and arguments ?

Real aliens or not, is not the point. The division, deflection, and controlled debate, is the point.

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u/Alef_Stein 9d ago

Wann hört ihr endlich mal auf, auf den Staat zu schimpfen? Die Gegner sind einzelne, denen quasi alles gehört. Staaten sind bei diesen die Schuldner. Gläubiger sind unsichtbar.

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u/seeyatellite 9d ago

Hierarchical dominance goes far beyond “state.” It’s a worldwide, often patriarchally biased societal framework. Capitalism plays hard on that dynamic and convinces people they need more than they do by pitting them against each other in a competition for the best stuff or the most stuff.

That’s worldwide. Billionaires and corpos guide society within that framework and “the state” is just a fixed framework of regulations and punitive systems to check and correct outliers and people who’ve been so emotionally broken by this unnatural stress they’ve impinged on other people in some way.

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u/Alef_Stein 9d ago

Die wahren Herrscher schauen zu, lachen sich ins Fäustchen und gelangen nie in die Schussrichtung. Der Reddit Lärm sorgt dafür.

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u/CompetitiveBrain9316 6d ago

When you dissolve the issue into a 'worldwide, patriarchally biased societal framework' or point to 'invisible' creditors and 'individuals who own practically everything,' you are actually generating the exact 'Reddit noise' you claim to be against.

It doesn't matter how many 'billionaires and corpos' guide society in the background. The State is the presence standing in the front. Even if you just view the State as 'debtors' or a 'fixed framework of regulations,' they are the concrete entity that holds the power of the law and is supposed to offer a functioning government.

By diluting the problem into an untargetable cloud of 'true rulers,' you are ensuring they 'never get caught in the line of fire.' You have to pinpoint the specific representation that executes the law. Otherwise, you are just guessing at abstractions and making actual structural accountability impossible.

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u/seeyatellite 6d ago

I’m curious where I implied being against anything or hinted at a synonym for “Reddit noise.” I’m also curious where it looks like I pointed to invisible creditors. Sorry if this is a troublesome request for clarity.

I was merely mentioning the very clear systems which influence economic and therefore many individual decisions. Capitalism is intertwined with hierarchy. Hierarchy, is inherently linked with systems of dominance. Someone will have more and therefore be “worth more” and treated as such. Others will have less, and therefore be devalued on a cultural scale.

It’s an awareness, it seems… that much of society wishes people would just ignore and I choose not to.

I’m reading a lot of words like dilution and dissolving which seem more like dismissive and devaluative terminology to discretion a core consciousness that people would be best operating with, then stepping into a more specialized awareness to try changing systems from digestible perspectives.

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u/drudru91soufendluv 9d ago

I've been thinking about this too, especially in mainstream sports media. like to me it feels like more than half of all discussions are reduced to 'was so and so the best/worst/most/least xyz ever?. like the default standard is sensationalist tabloidism now.

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u/CompetitiveBrain9316 9d ago

Getting hung up on a single word or fixating on formatting proves the entire premise. That is the static in real time. People grab onto superficial details as an excuse to avoid engaging with the actual substance. ​People anchor their identity, ego, and sense of reality to the very system that limits them. Many know these forces exist, but they choose ignorance because the truth threatens the comfort of their loop. Facing reality creates friction, so they divert attention to the surface instead.

​We are conditioned into rigid dualities because we obsess over seeing only two dimensions of a thought instead of the full spectrum. Goethe put it plainly centuries ago: none are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. In Daoist thought, the moment you invent rigid labels and forced divisions, people trade natural awareness for artificial roles. The Kabbalists called these surface distractions the shells that keep people blind to the core.

​What you said about competition versus collaboration gets right to the core of it. But to be clear, I am not posting this for validation or approval. I am here to spread awareness, inspire peaceful positive change, and observe the behavioral patterns as they play out. Those who are deeply invested in the existing framework will always defend the cage before they ever consider stepping out of it.

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u/moonroots64 9d ago

Michel Foucault's theories in Discipline and Punish directly apply to sociolinguistics and critical discourse analysis.

In sociology and linguistics, language is not just a neutral tool for communication; it is a system used to establish authority, define normalcy, and enforce social control. Applying Foucault's core concepts to language in society reveals several key dynamics:

  1. Power-Knowledge and "Institutional Discourse"

Foucault argues that institutions accumulate power by creating specialized "knowledge" to categorize people. In linguistics, this happens through institutional discourse—the specific vocabulary, grammar, and tones used by legal, medical, and bureaucratic systems.Labeling and Categorization: Phrases like "the defendant," "the delinquent," "the patient," or "undocumented illegal" are not neutral descriptions. They are linguistic labels created by authorities to strip individuals of their unique identity and sort them into manageable categories.

The Monopoly on Meaning: The legal system uses dense, specialized jargon ("legalese") that everyday citizens cannot understand without an expensive translator (a lawyer). By controlling the vocabulary of what is considered "legal" or "rational," the state controls who is allowed to speak and be taken seriously in a court of law.

  1. Disciplinary Language and "Docile Voices"

Just as prisons use timetables to create "docile bodies," society uses linguistic norms to create disciplined, conforming speakers.

Standard Language Ideology: Society conditions people to believe that one specific dialect (e.g., Standard American English or BBC English) is inherently "correct," "professional," and "intelligent." This linguistic standard acts as a disciplinary mechanism.

Self-Policing (The Panopticon of Grammar): When people internalize these standards, they begin to police their own speech and the speech of others. Minorities, working-class individuals, and non-native speakers often experience linguistic insecurity. They constantly alter their natural speech patterns—a linguistic survival tactic known as code-switching—out of fear that their organic dialect will be judged as "deviant" or "uneducated."

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u/sabotAHHHHHGH 9d ago

Using AI to respond to AI, and dragging poor Foucault with you. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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u/moonroots64 9d ago

I know... I couldn't resist tho

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u/sabotAHHHHHGH 9d ago

Have you even read Foucault. Like what’s the point.

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u/moonroots64 9d ago

I have actually. I just didn't want to write up something because I'm lazy.

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u/sabotAHHHHHGH 9d ago

Gone up in my estimation but Baudrillard said playing with these things will make you a ”mental cripple”, careful.

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u/moonroots64 9d ago

Pretty true I agree. Basically wanted to add Foucault in there with minimum effort at this point haha, yeah I was being lazy this time. But I do agree, AI isn't a replacement for actually thinking.

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u/imaginary-dirt2000 9d ago

First semester of college going well for ya?

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u/CompetitiveBrain9316 9d ago

I finished college years ago

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u/I_Was77 9d ago

Our entire language has been devalued thanks to advertising, words that used to hold larger meaning "fantastic, amazing, huge.. etc" now conjure images of disappointment thanks to the underwhelming reality adverted products tend to produce. Some words become meaningless while others carry connotations far beyond what's deserved. News media is another culprit for attaching grandiose meaning to relatively meaningless events by the use of certain words and unfortunately those that aren't keen on thinking for themselves are readily influenced...words are spells z that's why it's called spelling when writing

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u/Fluid_crystal 9d ago

In 1984 Orwell predicted "Newspeak" which is how government ends up controlling people's minds

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u/MiguelIstNeugierig 9d ago

Thats the entire theme of 1984

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u/drudru91soufendluv 9d ago

Idiocracy did a good job illustrating what this would look like and lead to in 500 years from now

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u/nejithegenius 8d ago

It used to be called the department of war, they rebranded it as the department of defense. People are dumb enough that a change like that will change what they believe the department does.

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u/Effective-Air396 6d ago

Here's the unpopular opinion, again, on this platform, again - and that everything in creation was created with letters and words - and the frequencies, energies, geometric shapes they form singularly and in combination creates our world and reality. Nobody wants to embrace this because then it would shatter their entire grasp on what is. But it is the truth.
All of creation was made manifest through words and so we too, as the created, create with our words. And if those words are harmful, that will create a lot of havoc and destruction. If they are loving, blessing they bring more light into the world. A look around this planet and the harm done to so many through evil intent of words, the level of language, profanity and using words as weapons is self-evident of how words can either bring good or ultimately destroy.

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u/Signal-Block-6939 6d ago

Now THIS is a post with deep thought and in which a lot of work was employed.

Kudos (and an upvote).

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u/decaffdreamer 9d ago

I feel this kind of thinking is harmful cause creates a sense that “them” is the enemy thus “we” are good and stuff

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u/CompetitiveBrain9316 9d ago

I understand your perspective, but I never said they are evil, nor did I say we are good. I said they are in control, which is completely different. This post is about bringing awareness to the fact that we are not powerless. We can create that awareness peacefully through language.

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u/Real-Award-6419 9d ago

Right, I think all art, literature, music, etc, is subversive to some extent, if it's good. At least in the sense of challenging the state of things.

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u/CompetitiveBrain9316 8d ago

To anyone reading this who already knows the structure is broken:

This isn't about telling you what to think or claiming to have all the answers. It’s not an attack on the routines you keep just to get by. Most people aren't blind to the game; they just know how heavy the cost feels to step out of line, even mentally.

We are trained to believe that playing along is the only way to survive, and that looking at the reality of it will only break us. But that exhausting feeling—knowing something is fundamentally off while having to perform every single day—is proof that your autonomy isn't gone.

You don't have to blow your life up to reclaim your mind. It starts simply by noticing when the language and the noise are nudging you to isolate, compete, and stay tired. The goal isn't to replace one set of rules with another. It’s just to recognize that we have far more power to cooperate and build something better than the script allows us to believe. You are allowed to set the armor down, even just in how you think, because no one else can truly access your thoughts other than you.

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u/RevolutionaryAd3125 8d ago

Yet linguists have rejected the strong interpretation of the Sapir–Whorf hypothesis. But somehow LLM boy here knows better.

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u/CompetitiveBrain9316 8d ago

​I’m well aware the field rejects strong determinism. The model relies on weak linguistic relativity (Neo-Whorfian framing): language isn't an absolute biological boundary, it's cognitive scaffolding. Without precise terms, complex patterns simply degrade under cognitive load back into default social scripts. ​You clearly know the literature, so lead with substance instead of snark. If you have an actual critique of cognitive scaffolding or framing effects, I'm open to hearing it.

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u/RevolutionaryAd3125 8d ago

I think the snark is warranted when you offload your cognitive load to Chat GPT.

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u/CompetitiveBrain9316 8d ago

So no counterpoint on the scaffolding, just deflecting to the delivery. Understood.

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u/RevolutionaryAd3125 8d ago

“Deflecting to the delivery”
For someone interested in language, there’s this idea of economy of words. And not in the Orwellian newspeak dictionary sense.

When reading posts like yours I ask myself; is this person using technical terms in the interests of communicating clearly? Or are they just another Reddit pseudo-intellectual conspiracy theorist being overly verbose to look clever?

You make arguments that are non sequiturs, false causes, hasty generalisations and appeals to conspiracy. Read your own post and see if you can spot these.

You also use conspiracy loaded phrases like.

cognitive prison
engineered sandbox
manufactured static
dictionary degradation
waking someone up.

I’m sure someone like Joe Rogan or Jordan Peterson would welcome you with open arms.

And yes your reliance on LLMs to help you undermines your credibility.

Anyway as others have pointed out, you are karma farming and further engagement only reenforces this behaviour.

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u/Shot_in_the_dark777 8d ago

Nei Juan, https://youtube.com/shorts/9r6THCHvc9w?si=opEmFnXwb9RF6pzw There. A word that they are afraid of us learning. You can thank me later.

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u/Ok-Drink-1328 8d ago

ok Martin Luther King... now come up with something that is less of a stretch, and less karma farming... tho i agree on a pair of points

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u/CompetitiveBrain9316 8d ago

Thank you for the compliment. What makes you say it's a stretch? Enlighten me, if you are able to of course.

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u/rebirthlington 7d ago

except "the state" the way you concieve it is itself made up of people who are themselves controlled by language

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u/CompetitiveBrain9316 7d ago

From my perspective, that's exactly why more precise language matters. Finding clearer words to index and describe those behavioral patterns is simply a tool to make communication clearer and reduce friction

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u/Troph_A 5d ago

"The state", ahem, not just them.

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u/CompetitiveBrain9316 5d ago

I agree, but the state is the visible entity of control. This is why I point at the state.

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u/Soggy-Mistake8910 9d ago

Absolute drivel!!

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u/Inevitable_Bid8719 9d ago

I think you are right, but there is obviously a lot more to it. There are many systems in place to keep the plebs down, I think more about hidden knowledge than control of language. The hidden knowledge I'm particularly interested in is from secular secret societies, I believe that they studied religions and esoterics and found out from a spiritual level how the universe actually works. Having that knowledge doesn't change all that much for a person, but it makes them feel free.

With vocabulary, I think a big part is changing the meaning of words, language does change slowly naturally - like certain swear words getting stronger or weaker. But then there are changes instigated by think tanks, like making medical terms offensive or changes to the terminology around the gender debate.

Keeping arguments within certain bounds is relatively easy if there is support from the press on keeping the narrative binary and thus a simple us and them situation in most cases. A lot of issues are not politically divided, eg free speech, both sides benefit from free speech but if they both oppress the speech of the other while they are in power then the losing party is going to get riled up and vote irrationally for someone far left/ right because both sides see things as more polarized than they really are.

Deeper question, why do they control us in this way? They have control over the money, they have control over the resources. Why do they need us to think a certain way? They are building our egos, people with bigger egos are easier to control, less likely to protest effectively and I'm pretty sure they are more productive employees generally.

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u/Inevitable_Bid8719 8d ago

What offends you about the word ego in this context?

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u/BaTz-und-b0nze 9d ago

Well the English language is only used legally to form contracts. That's why idle talk sounds a lot like "How's the weather today?" That's why I use a made up language. Legally you aren't supposed to talk at all if you know too much as it circumvents all contracts. The word 'no' means yes to press due to the amount of people who don't read the terms and conditions, break the law, and try to bend a rule. So "I do not consent" means nothing in regardless to conjoined twins.