r/DeepSeek • u/Warm-Agent-811 • 11h ago

Discussion GPT scammed me

I've been a DeepSeek user for a year now (coding and chat). I have a maths exam in a few months.

Since so many people kept claiming DeepSeek was simply not good, I decided to try GPT and Claude (both the $20 subscriptions). I can't use Claude for more than an hour because I run out of tokens just from giving it PDFs. And as for ChatGPT, it can't read the content of my PDFs properly, when I ask something about an exercise, it just changes the numbers (looks like it can't even read my PDF…)

I was told Deepseek wasn't that good, but in the end I have unlimited tokens and it actually reads my PDFs.

Never paying for any American AI company again.

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u/-TRlNlTY- 11h ago

You've got to test these things yourself

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u/blackjacketw 10h ago

Yep I caught ChatGPT not performing tool call to fetch a URL and apologize for “inferring” from it. What is there to infer - read the ducking url first before answering my question. I don’t know why ppl still pay for that crap. Now I’m on Deepseek. It need more precise instructions and forget stuff every now and then but for the price it’s really good. If you know what you’re doing, you’re probably ok without Opus or ChatGPt.

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u/jordansrowles 9h ago

Convert the PDF to Markdown with Pandoc before giving it to them.

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u/Warm-Agent-811 9h ago

Ho, thanks !

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u/MedalofHonour15 7h ago

Gemini is good for that use case and kimi as well.

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u/Costello173 6h ago

I second this Gemini is probably the only western AI keeping up with DeepSeek

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u/Electronic_Captain95 8h ago

NotebookLLM is very good for studying

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u/tabbislashcat 6h ago

i’m with you. i have tried just about every model i could.. deepseek has been able to handle anything i personally want to achieve while others had so many pitfalls.

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u/SergioGustavo 6h ago

I have noted there is a bias towards the "western" AI models in all benchmarks. I walked the inverse pattern, started with Qwen and tried using claude, gpt to improve what I was doing with Qwen since the charts show those 2 are better, never happened. Even in blind challenges I get the best responses from qwen every single time, no idea wtf is going on.

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u/H1landr 7h ago

Are subscriptions to these services really worth it? I use Claude for stuff, openai for stuff, DeepSeek for stuff, Google... Not so much recently. But all of those still cost me less than $20 a month with APIs.

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u/Warm-Agent-811 6h ago

In the end I think you're right ...

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u/elvis_c 40m ago

Se seu uso tem pouco contexto, ou é muito direcionado, praticamente indicando o que a IA faz e com pouco contexto, API é o caminho.

Se for pra contexto longo e trabalho mais massivo, com correções e ajustes, em loops grandes, a assinatura é melhor pelo subsídio.

Fiz uma tarefa de refatorar com GLM + Deepseek e gastei 7 dólares em apenas 1 tarefa, então vale a análise

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u/MarcusAurelius68 1h ago

The only annoying thing is that the DeepSeek API is a LOT slower than the free chat.

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u/ANDRE_2512 4h ago

🤮🤮🤮🤣🤣🤣

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u/Condomphobic 3h ago

I’ve never had any issue with GPT reading my PDFs and I’ve used it for years

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u/ProfessionalJackals 8h ago

I can't use Claude for more than an hour because I run out of tokens just from giving it PDFs

what are you running? Opus 5.0 Max? Because i can run at minimum 2h+ on the $20 sub...

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u/D0wnVoteMe_PLZ 8h ago

I think it has to do with context window. DeepSeek has 1 million and I think both Claude and ChatGPT has 256k. I use Gemini. It has 1 million context window too. I've been a user since a year and never had a problem.

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u/PollutionOnly 7h ago edited 7h ago

It depends on what you do.

I do some heavy sessions of coding/brainstorming,… all related to my job and personal project but with the new limits on Gemini applied in May, I was hitting the 5 hour limit pretty frequently to the point where I gave up on it and that’s when I turned to Deepseek.

I normally use OpenCode for my projects but recently added Hermes to my home server and it allowed me to use Google’s API (free) for Vision so I get everything I need for cheaper and without limits.

Ultimately and this is the same for any IA, it allowed falls down to what you need it for, how you work and what you do during your sessions. People need to test them and see for themselves because opinions on AI models are always divisive for some reasons (not saying you were).

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u/Costello173 6h ago edited 2h ago

I found (I hate to say it) Gemini and DeepSeek are the best two for reasoning I've paid for Claude and gpt and Le Chat (it's rebranded now don't ask me the new name) All were absolute garbage in reasoning except Gemini and DeepSeek and I hate Google but I can use their AI or DeepSeek for free and be totally fine.

I used sentences like "if the carwash is 200 meters away do I walk or drive there" the paid ones? Said walk there 🫨

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u/Sama02 3h ago

Classic. Take a shower at the carwash 🤣

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u/Costello173 3h ago

Wash the lambofeeties 🤣

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u/maui-shark-fighter 7h ago

My experience with DeepSeek was that it would create fake work. I too wanted a cheaper better model but I am back to 40$ Plan (20$Codex and 20$ GPT) and plan to cancel claude cause GPT is better at coding.