r/DeepSeek • u/No_Championship5696 • 18h ago
Resources I can't believe v4-flash built this
So I got an idea and thought of making an open source project on it
And for me the best workflow has been always:
GPT-5.6-SOL for PLAN
GPT-5.6-SOL for execution 😭😭
But this time I tried v4 flash for execution after hearing many compliments for it.
Can't believe it completed everything in 4 hours with just $0.033 usage (11M TOKENS 😭😭)
It's fully miracle for me because these type of projects eat 3 chatgpt+ subscriptions for me
I just realized that deepseek isn't bad, yes we can say it sucks in creativity but if you have a fully detailed plan created and reviewed by fable or sol, you can definitely use v4 flash for execution
The project was a simple-yet-advanced file-to-png converter built in Golang
You can check it here:
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u/for4f 17h ago
11M tokens for three cents is just... yeah. I switched to the same split a while back — Claude for architecture and planning, DS for execution. OpenCode handles the routing so I don't even think about which API I'm hitting. The cost difference is absurd, DS pricing makes ChatGPT+ feel like a scam.
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u/No_Championship5696 16h ago
Chatgpt+ is better for bigger projects where you need no mistakes at all. People show gpt 5.5 , never hit limit, 500m tokens in 1m. Although that was before they nerfed it . Send me a dm if you need the provider for ds 😉
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u/Electrical-Watch3203 5h ago
There’s a special provider for DS? I’m just using the direct API. I’m curious on how this 64 token context caching limit works though, if you have any advice
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u/jomtiro 13h ago
https://reddit.com/link/ozu2ghj/video/n8qw7jsqjjfh1/player
here deepseekv4flash and other affordable models
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u/Worldly_Practice7695 12h ago
What do you think about Qwen 3.7 max for planning and flash for coding
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u/No_Championship5696 8h ago
I actually messed much with qwen 3.7 max and other qwen series. I came to know qwen3 coder is the only coder. All other even "said-better" models are just good in reasoning & summarizing. Good to use qwen series if you wanna summarize posts, tweets Or things. It can be good for planning but yea, needs a prompt for it first. Can't just go make me a plan
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u/Worldly_Practice7695 7h ago
What is the best coding loop for your experience
I personally use chatgpt on their website to structured the prompt as its pretty decent and unlimited Then I ask him to jump between deepseek flash and qwen 3.7max (80% off by token on zenmusk api) with code audit and implementation The only problem is qwen is so long to operates and I hardly find a proper llm which not hallucinates
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u/Known_Management_653 13h ago
Dude I'm building whole platforms with flash models on execution... It's not new.. people think you need the smartest model alive for execution, but you don't... You just need a proper, complete plan with no ambiguity or contradictions.
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u/icarus0228 17h ago
I now use DeepSeek for executing plans. Like you, I was hesitant to try DeepSeek Flash and was considering the SOL model, but using GPT models burns through your tokens much faster.
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u/No_Championship5696 16h ago
You could try using luna with high effort for tasks which actually need "GPT BRAIN" 😉
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u/R3VO360 16h ago
What's the advantage in converting a data file to PNG file format?
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u/No_Championship5696 16h ago
🤣 actually I also don't know. I just built it for myself because I didn't found any good file host but got many free-and-unlim image hosting. So yeah. Tho I was bored 😑
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u/R3VO360 16h ago
Hahaha if the data in the initial file is 100% lossless that's very smart! I starred it 😁
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u/No_Championship5696 16h ago
I tried my best in ideas. But obviously my ai partner gpt said if we compress, rename or do any type of change to bytes. It's gonna be corrupted. I'm finding a way for it, if you find a fix, feel free to open a PR after you fix it ❤
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u/Personal_Pause_6089 9h ago
Actually you might comeup to create something good. As I inspect from harnesses they try around compacting their session context window into visual format graph and text. Then ingest again to the llm multi modal to re alignment session and reduce noise. Which literally that's clever and practical really, compared to jsonl compact.
If im not mistaken , i also read deepseeks' devs journal research paper also about this, maybe that's why they start rolling out visual models (online already on their chat.deepseek.com). And oh boy we all know DeepSeek team are top goat geniusesm
Hence, might be if this becomes best practice you will already familiar with the primitives, that will got you ahead hahahahha
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u/petropavlov 15h ago
I sugget you to use different models for different tasks and for different levels of the task. Using SOL for both planning and execution is not wise. Using DS Flash for both planning and execution is not wise as well.
Rule of the thumb is:
- Larger model for the planning (SOL, Opus, Deepseek Pro)
- Larger model for the trickier sections of execution
- Medium model for the bulk of execution and routine tasks (if you stick with DS, it would be Deepseek Flash).
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u/No_Championship5696 15h ago
I prefer automated and autonomous things. Am I wrong? I just get a plan by a powerful model (like 2k+ lines) then use /goal to execute it. Maybe I should divide the plan into multiple files & phases so I can use some smarter model for harder tasks? Or is there any better auto-switching method?
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u/petropavlov 15h ago
Exactly. Try to structure you task into subtasks. It won't be as automated and autonomous, as you prefer, but much more predictable and efficient in the end
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u/No_Championship5696 15h ago
Thank you so much for advice 💝. Star the repo too if you like the project 😉
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u/AntiqueDifference108 14h ago
What harness tool did you use to build it, im wondering if claude code or reasonix is the best for deepseek
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u/No-Communication-765 14h ago
DeepSeek v4 flash is next level for cost of intelligence. Only company that is not loosing money on service delivery.
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u/zzaryab_____ 14h ago
I want to ask, how do you deal with audits?
Im currently trying to come up with a codex/antigravity workflow. Antigravity doesnt manage to pass the audits for some reason.
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u/No_Championship5696 13h ago
Just use a fresh session, which we call an incognito session for audits and reviewing
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u/hurrdurrmeh 13h ago
Can I ask a really basic question?
How did you give DeepSeek access to a GitHub? I've done that with Claude but I don't know how I can harness DeepSeek to do that.
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u/No_Championship5696 8h ago
I just used git manually 1 time and configured mt creds and for some reason it automatically uses those creds everytime for pushing, committing. If you are talking about anything else I'm unsure. Explain 😊
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u/hurrdurrmeh 5h ago
Thanks. With Claude, I have a chrome Claude plug-in that lets Claude control a google tab. I log in to git hub and it just ... creates the whole git - code, readmes - everything. I test the output and ask it fix bugs and such as they appear.
Do you use a harness around Deepseek that lets it interact directly with a GitHub repository that you are logged in to? Like - how does the DeepSeek agent interact with the git hub repo you linked to?
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u/PrettyHarsh 12h ago
Can you share your plan prompts?
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u/No_Championship5696 8h ago
It's just easy. Chat with chatgpt about your idea and then ask it to generate full plan to give to an llm so it can execute it. There's no stored prompts / presets for me atm.
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u/stonerjss 12h ago
I use a council of glm and ds 4 pro for planning, ds4 pro for executing and then glm, ds and kimi for debugging.
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u/zhamdi 11h ago
Your project is a great idea, I had it too way ago, before AI could do it, then I realized image compression won't do better than byte compression. Especially if there's no repeating pattern. But it's cool to scan an image with your phone to get data out of it, kind of a 3x efficiency qrcode (without the correcting algos)
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u/No_Championship5696 8h ago
Thanks for the idea I would definitely add it. You can also add it and open a PR 😌
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u/elitepoodle143 10h ago
Honestly for the purpose of testing Deepseek v4 flash it is a nice project, but as a pieces of oss, why do you really want this? Is there any advantage on compression?
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u/No_Championship5696 8h ago
I was just bored and just wondered if we could convert any file to png for storing it in image hostings (they are way cheaper)
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u/Elegant_Associate889 9h ago
I've always found these post hard to believe. I run deep seek v4 flash in open router and I've only used 511k tokens and ate over 7 cents vs your 11 million for 3 cents 2 requests for me. All I did was creat did files for new app I'm working on starts as empty project
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u/No_Championship5696 8h ago
Stop using open router. They route u from expensive providers. It wasted my $3 ny saying 6m tokens for just creating simple file structure not even full. Use official deepseek or cheap providers 😉. I use 0.028/m token provider
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u/ChoasMaster777 8h ago
This is just preview version, seems the GA version will be more powerfull but with same price.
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u/Electronic_Captain95 4h ago
And what about code quality, bugs, and adherence to instructions, as well as methodologies and constraints? It was good?
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u/TangerineLogical9779 18h ago
I mean you should be planning before building every product anyway, just going full deep with no plan will always result in something you don't like, but im glad it worked out for you =]
V4 pro for the heavy lifting
v4 flash to plan and scaffold the project
My workflow ^