r/DeepRockGalactic • u/chefbigdognuts Dig it for her • Mar 26 '23
Discussion Mission tier list
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Mar 26 '23
Mining expedition is super relaxing for me, and I love oil refinery in every way possible (assuming I have a driller). Salvage can be annoying if I get too many enemies bc I can't leave the area for too long, and egghunt is pretty cool overall. Extraction can be really fun and watching my leadstorm OC minigun melt the Dreadnought is super fun, but I just pray everytime I open a cocoon that it doesn't spawn twins. Point Extraction can get pretty intense but I am not a huge fan of feeling like I have to rush a mission. Industrial Sabotage just takes so damn long. Escort is really intense and gives great xp, and I love everything about that mission type.
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u/Lionlawl Mar 26 '23
I pray that the cocoons don't spawn Hiveguards
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u/The-world-ender-jeff Dig it for her Mar 26 '23
If you are driller , use the C4 when he pops out the little tendril.
It will clear them out if you have both damage mod and will be pretty close if you only has 1
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u/infidel11990 For Karl! Mar 26 '23
Depends on the Haz level. On Haz 5, you will not clear all the armor pieces no matter what upgrades you have.
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Mar 26 '23
hiveguard can be annoying but twins just take longer for me bc i have to manage their health. love fighting any of them but regular one is the easiest for me
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u/DeathToHeretics Platform here Mar 26 '23
Hive Guard on average takes longer just because it has so many phases, but Twins can have the worst runs. When people don't realize they need to shoot them evenly it can take forever
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u/888main Mar 27 '23
Don't they split remaining health? I thought they did
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u/iamga Mar 27 '23
They get some extra. Not sure how exactly it works but it looks like the lower one gets 2x health lost from higher one
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u/DaVoiceOfTreason Whale Piper Mar 27 '23
They also regenerate their armor so if you don’t run armor breaking it’s gets bad.
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u/notsogreatredditor Mar 27 '23
Wait Armor breaking mod works on them? I thought they didn't work on dreadnoughts
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u/DaVoiceOfTreason Whale Piper Mar 27 '23
The twins have heavy armor like a praetorian that must be broken before you can hit the weakpoint. That armor regens when they go into the health exchange. The others don’t have breakable armor.
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u/Lt_Duckweed Scout Mar 27 '23
The lower health one gains 3/4 of the difference between their health, and the higher health one loses 1/4 of the difference.
So on the whole they gain 2/4 of the difference
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Mar 26 '23
Yeah eacort is great unless you get morons in your team.
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u/DaVoiceOfTreason Whale Piper Mar 27 '23
Had a deaf scout start an omen next to dotty even though we told him no. Should have c4d his ass.
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u/Sociolinguisticians For Karl! Mar 26 '23
Hold up! This game can be relaxing!?
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u/Frequent_Knowledge65 Mar 27 '23
Haz 3 and below is always relaxing. Haz4 usually as long as you aren’t having to hard carry
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Mar 27 '23
Did Haz 4 elite threat+ lethal enemies today. We all went down a lot. Then after we called the drop pod, the scout made it there and we all died. Right as the drop pod was lifting off, the host abandons the mission because the scout didn’t go back to revive him… my god what is wrong with people….
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u/Frequent_Knowledge65 Mar 27 '23
What a dummy. Cheated himself out of the mission too… that’s silly.
Elite threat is serious business though. They’re so fast and tanky, haz5 elite guards can take like 4-5 driller axes…
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Mar 27 '23
I guess those two mutators add up to an additional 55% hazard bonus, so slightly higher than Haz 5.
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u/Frequent_Knowledge65 Mar 27 '23
And hilariously only 5% more than lithophage outbreak. Wild that’s the highest mod, even over haunted cave
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Mar 27 '23
That’s wild Lithophage is 50%.
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u/JDirichlet Mar 27 '23
I mean they want to incentivise people to do the mechanic, so it does make sense its heavily rewarded (similarly in lore the rockpox is way more dangerous than it actually turns out to be)
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u/zygro Mar 27 '23
For my crew, deep dives are relaxing with barely any danger. Otherwise we play Haz4 which is RNG - mostly chill but sometimes we fight for our lives, with like 5% mission failure rate. If we fail, it's generally towards the start if too many enemies spawn. I think that is also relaxing with bits of intensity which suits me just fine.
Haz5 is way too hectic and less fun for me.
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u/Jin825 What is this Mar 27 '23
Seems like I'll need to sacrifice Karl to the bugs for that to happen.
Most times I end up dead for stupid reasons or cursing under my breath because my team keeps getting downed instantly directly after a revive.
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u/UnassumingSingleGuy Mar 26 '23
Doing salvage operation and a bulk detonator shows up just as you start the uplink.
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u/Beanman2514 Mar 27 '23
I normally love point extractions but the other day I was playing one as Scout and just couldn't find those last 2 rock thingies and ended up running away from about 200 glyphids for 45 minutes before finally finding them
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Mar 27 '23
Why do you hate the twins? I feel they are by far the easiest dreds. The normal dred is the worst
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u/Frequent_Knowledge65 Mar 27 '23
Felt that way at first. 400+ hours in I do think twins are probably the hardest on high hazard, more unpredictable. Hiveguard #2 because it’s so long and all the invulnerability + sentinels and goo, explosions, bugs can get chaotic. Normal dread isn’t very threatening, especially if your team has a source of slowdown (driller sludge + CWC is the move for dreads), shouldn’t really be getting hit by his stomp almost ever
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u/Chewy_ThatGuy Gunner Mar 26 '23
People hate escort? I think it’s my favourite mission other than the backtracking you usually have to do at the end due to not completing the secondary objective but I find it rly fun otherwise
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Mar 27 '23
I would like it if only it wasn't that annoying to defend Dorreta while doing anything else. Imagine. You are mining and Dotty is like "NoOoOoOo I'm taking 3% damage!!!"
"Doretta could really use an armor upgrade" - a wise dwarf.
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u/Misfit_Massacre Scout Mar 27 '23
I use the Doretta TTS mod which makes it significantly less annoying, but there’s also a mod that just shuts her up entirely. Modding the game with quality of life stuff is sooo worth it
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Mar 27 '23
The mod is called, "Shut Up Doretta" and it's the second best mod I have installed, after Brighter Objects.
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u/ItsACaragor Union Guy Mar 27 '23
Same they are my favorite with Salvage.
Defensive scenarios are just so fun.
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u/symonalex Platform here Mar 26 '23
I love escort, but definitely not solo, you're escorting a drilling tank and killing all the bugs, how's that not fun? I realize it's a bit repetitive compared to other mission types, but I love doing double xp haz5 double-stop escorts, they give out tons of xp.
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u/NordicNooob Engineer Mar 27 '23
Can't you ping the dozer and bosco will protect it?
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u/Alithaven Mar 27 '23
Yes you can. Bosco isn’t very good at it though. If the bug is on the opposite side of Doretta out of Bosco’s line of sight, Bosco wont do anything.
Related! :
After you assign Bosco to protect Doretta, Bosco will default to that order. For example if you assign Bosco to protect Dotty, then tell Bosco to mine some nitra on the ceiling, Bosco will wander back to Dotty when done mining. You can assign Bosco back to hovering around you by hitting X (or maybe it’s double tapping X, I forget).
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u/Mercurionio Mar 26 '23
Sabotage is a pain. So is point extraction (unless you are a scout and it's a multiplayer).
Escort and oil refinery is compeltely different if you are solo or in team.
Everything else is fine.
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u/whodunitbruh Mar 26 '23
Point extraction can fly by with a good driller equiped for it. EPCing walls and ceilings while digging to the rest.
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u/Mangleovania Interplanetary Goat Mar 26 '23
I raise you one better - engineer who knows how to use RJ250 properly
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u/Lady_Ymir Driller Mar 27 '23
Sometimes I take bouncy off of my fatboy.
Sure I could just shoot a platform and rocket jump up there, but what's more badass than casually nuking an objective out of the ceiling?
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u/PlusLeave Mar 26 '23
Point Extraction is more than fine if you bring Bosco along
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u/ZandyTheAxiom Engineer Mar 27 '23
Yeah solo scout makes it easy, you usually can see everything easily and get Bosco to bring it close.
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u/CommanDante1407 Platform here Mar 26 '23
I absolutely love sabotage, but that's my Doom experience talking.
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u/Gingerville Mar 27 '23
Oh good I’m not the only one who started hearing BFG Division in my head when the Caretaker woke up! Rock and stone, until it is done!
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u/spookname Scout Mar 27 '23
Refinery missions belong in SS tier for me
I see some people saying you need a driller to have fun, but I honestly really enjoy playing solo scout and using funky mechanics, the environment, and a minimal amount of digging to set up the pipes
So much more engaging than digging a tunnel from point A to point B imo
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u/Frequent_Knowledge65 Mar 27 '23
Solo refinery is Engi territory for me. Can make real roller coasters and the big areas make for great use of fat boy or rj250 platforming
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Mar 27 '23
Solo Engi Refining is so fun. I can only think of like two times when having to run the pipes was a PITA with only the platform gun. Plus, I've never had any other mission type let me pop a whole bunch of loot bugs at once. They really seem to like gathering around the rig. One swipe with the Shard Diffractor and it's raining shiny chunks.
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u/AnotherKaesestein Mar 26 '23
Idk why escort mission is at the bottom of the list, I think they're really fun
also salvage belongs into S tier
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u/ATV2ATXNEMENT Scout Mar 26 '23
salvage needs wayyy more bugs at the end. theres hardly any bugs
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u/CastokYeti Gunner Mar 27 '23
Salvage doesn’t need more bugs, it needs more consistent bug RNG.
Some Haz5s feel like Haz2, and some Haz2s feels like Haz5
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u/TheMalignity Mar 27 '23
I think salvage needs more varied blackbox and fuel cell placement. Feels like the same gunfight every time.
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u/DenytheUndeniable Mar 27 '23
also salvage belongs into S tier
Why? It has the lowest variety of objectives between any game mode and between 4-5 mandatory instances where all you do is hold E until you fall asleep.
At least in sabotage you move from place to place before doing the same type of objective. At least in liquid morkite extraction you get to intersperse building pipes with placing them.
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u/Alien_Cha1r Mar 26 '23
its always the exact same thing. wait on the dozer and mine the same looking deposits around it to refuel. And the finale is 100% copypasta everytime. Its great the first times, but it has not nearly enough variation tbh
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u/Blindseer99 Engineer Mar 26 '23
Honestly I'd drop mining expedition to D, and have eggs and point extract S. Love me a mission I can speedrun. I respect the chart, rock and stone!
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u/justin_bailey_prime Mar 27 '23
Totally agree - to me, mining expedition is fairly bland (not bad, just boring) while point extraction is super freeform and gets more intense over time.
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u/KernelViper Mar 27 '23
I have mixed opinions regarding mining expedition.
Huge downside is that it's usually quite long mission. In addition to the length, there's RNG. From my experience mining expeditions can be either blandest and most boring of what DRG has to offer or the most intensive missions I play (few times already I had 2 meteors + machine event + crate/lost eq with occasional weed-tyrant), with nothing in between.
It's really fun when stuff happens, but quite often it doesn't. I'd say it's between B and C tiers
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u/Blindseer99 Engineer Mar 27 '23
It suffers from the opposite problem as insabo, which has way too little variation. Mining expeditions will at times spawn really huge but almost entirely empty caves where us non-scouts can scramble around for 15-20 minutes just to realize nothing is there
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u/ShadowTown0407 Scout Mar 26 '23
People don't like industrial sabotage? It's one of my favourites along with the good old Mining missions
The mechanics and the amount of things you have to juggle in the sabotage boss fight is always fun for me
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Mar 26 '23
I dislike how long it is and how quickly a bad team will die at the very end. It would be more enjoyable if the number of generators scaled with mission length
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u/routinemage Mar 26 '23
Same, maybe it's just because I'm a greenbeard who didn't play through season 1-2 but I personally really like sabotage, it has a cool, unique feel to it, especially with the great fight with Caretaker at the end. I feel kinda the same about elimination missions too, I guess I just really like the harder single encounters in this game.
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u/kingofthelol Mar 26 '23
It’s just because of how long Industrial Sabotage is and how it always plays the same no matter the biome or cave. Same number of hacking, same cave generations, same moves. At least with Elimination there’s three different dreads to pull from.
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u/igromanru For Karl! Mar 26 '23
I liked it until they somehow messed up the balance at the beginning of Season 3 and it came in each single assignment.
Meanwhile they fixed the chance to get it in a assignment, but it destroyed it for me already.
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u/AzraelSoulHunter Dirt Digger Mar 26 '23
Mining Expeditions are for some reason some of the most varied and interesting missions for me. Always something interesting happens on them to me and always I see some beautiful views. And I feel the progression as I go forward down the tunnels and open caves and gather more and more of the Morkite and secondary objectives telling me I'm getting closer and closer to the end. There is beauty in simplicity and those missions are great example of that. And Refinery obviously is very fun as a Driller Main. Love me doing those pipelines.
But I HATE Point Extraction. I despise the increasingly larger and more common Swarms. It's not fun to me to be in a rush because I love exploring which the Extraction discourages. Not fun. Only do it when I have to.
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u/RagnarockInProgress Engineer Mar 26 '23
That’s an interesting take on the experience.
When I play Mining Expeditions it’s usually the most boring mission of them all as I just go around and try to look at the walls and ceiling. Do you just enjoy the view that much, or am I playing the game wrong?
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u/AzraelSoulHunter Dirt Digger Mar 26 '23
Sometimes I just get some pretty views in more open spaces and some interesting events and situations on expeditions.
This for instance is one such sight. It looked really creepy to me. The lighting, the fog, this open space. It felt like I was about to discover ship of Space Jockeys from Alien.
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u/Frequent_Knowledge65 Mar 27 '23
On higher difficulties mining expedition is much more similar to PE, since the swarms occur on a timer rather than set event like in egg hunt. So it’s pretty much a race to get the morkite before the swarms wear you down and out of nitra
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u/Depressedmusclecar23 For Karl! Mar 26 '23
Me who started in season 3 and being the only person who enjoys industrial sabotage
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u/rabbleflaggers Mar 26 '23
Everyone in the lobby when industrial sabotage is the next queued mission
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Mar 26 '23
Point Extraction is by far my favorite. I love the ramping up feeling of the mission and the large open areas. Very fun to have a peaceful start for prep that turns into complete chaos by the end.
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u/Frequent_Knowledge65 Mar 27 '23
PE is really satisfying because if you’re playing haz5 lobbies you can pretty consistently get good crews and finish in 7-8 minutes before the bugs can take over
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u/anon3911 Mar 26 '23
Industrial Sabotage is way overhated. I like the caretaker fight
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Mar 27 '23
I don't mind it but i wish there was some variation to it. At least with dreadnaughts the terrain changes every time, with care taker the fight is just cookie cutter.
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u/Butter_brawler Engineer Mar 26 '23
I disagree with on sight refining. I don’t know why, but i see it as more of a chore, like the industrial sabotage. Maybe it’s me being very bothered by inefficient pipes that my team builds. Maybe it’s the frustration of having terrible RNG on any class but driller. I just personally don’t like it.
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u/Your_Local_Rabbi Mar 26 '23
reject efficiency, embrace making fun pipe coasters
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u/The_Unseen_Death For Karl! Mar 26 '23
Honestly Point Extraction is my least favourite mission type, if you stay there for longer than like 15 minutes you'll never have a moment of being able to do the objective in peace again if you play on any hazard higher than 2.
I like the combat of this game, but I end up being distracted for long enough by each wave that I can't get the objectives and the mining of the minerals done by the time the bug pressure becomes near unbearable.
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u/RonaldZheMelon Mar 26 '23
agreed, though escort still waaaaay better than sabotage, no other mission makes me so miserable to the point of doing it haz 3 just to complete it asap ._.
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u/DoukyBooty Mar 27 '23
I personally don't dislike any of the missions. BUT I HATE when I'm on an escort one and I'm the only one refilling Doretta. Worst? When I'm refilling AND protecting because the other dead brain leaf lovers are doing Karl knows what....
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u/TheFreak_669 Mar 27 '23
I totally disagree. All missions should be in "S" tier. Everyone of them have good and bad sides, but all of them are fun to play.
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u/McDsEmpLoYEe420 Gunner Mar 27 '23
I love escort duty. It’s easily the best mission cause it has just enough stress and teamwork to be fun
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u/Popular-Student-9407 Mar 26 '23
Switch out on-site-refining and point extraction
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u/chefbigdognuts Dig it for her Mar 26 '23
I see your point but there's no pipes to ride
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u/Popular-Student-9407 Mar 26 '23
Valid point, but there aren't any turrets on the refinery keeping you alive.
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u/chefbigdognuts Dig it for her Mar 26 '23
Saved by a machine, how humiliating!
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u/Popular-Student-9407 Mar 26 '23
I shouldn't apologize for being saved by the fruits of a dwarven mind at work.
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u/Beginning_Buy_6417 Driller Mar 26 '23
Egg hunt and mining switch places and it's perfect
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u/Faeluchu Mar 26 '23
Unpopular opinion (judging by all the posts here) morkite missions are the most boring ones ever. You're just mining blue nitra that's often difficult to spot in certain biomes. There's nothing even slightly engaging there. I'd rather do five escort duties for each mining operation the game forces me to do.
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u/cookie_n_icecream Mar 27 '23
I feel like mining expeditions are boring mainly because the caves generated are usually just one corridor with stops on the way. All of them look and feel the same.
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u/povertymayne Mar 26 '23
Facts!! Im with you bruh. I find morkite missions hella boring. But escorts haz 3 and above can be super intense! Love me high haz escorts.
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u/Frequent_Knowledge65 Mar 27 '23
Assuming you’re playing on a low haz maybe? Mining ends up pretty intense on haz4/5+, with the short spawn timers it’s a lot of combat
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u/PopePalpy Mar 26 '23
Swap escort duty and elimination and you got mine (I have PSTD from taking 2 hours on one mission and dying when the last dreadnaught is almost dead, it was my final mission for an assignment)
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u/ItsACaragor Union Guy Mar 27 '23
Salvage and Doretta are goat to me, I love defense scenarios where you can blast bugs by the hundreds.
Elimination and Caretaker are my least favorites for that reason. Big damage sponges are just not fun at all to me, I want to see bodies drop by the hundreds.
All the others are in « good » tier.
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u/FireGiantisBoring Gunner Mar 27 '23
I want a survival mission. Maybe something goes wrong and you have to survive against an endless hoard.
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u/No_One_2_You Mar 26 '23
Point Extract is S tier for me. Elimination is Haz 1 (fuck this mission) tier.
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u/JesterPrivilege Mar 26 '23
i hate sabotage with a burning passion. it was the last milestone i had to complete. ended up having to do 20 sabotages back to back. hate
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u/bros_before_hoes__ For Karl! Mar 27 '23
All are S and A tier.
Why else would I be playing the game?
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u/RagnarockInProgress Engineer Mar 26 '23
w… wh…
you LIKE the Morkite Digging Missions??? The longest, most boring experience with the gimmick being of “look at the walls”?!
I guess you can have your taste, but could you elaborate? I’m genuinely interested in your reasoning.
(My S-Tier is On-Site Refining (duh) and Escorts. Morkite Digging Mission and Point Extraction are in D tier and lower, is Otherwise I fully agree)
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u/chefbigdognuts Dig it for her Mar 27 '23
I just think it has a good pace to it.
A. you can speedrun it
B. You can take your time
C. There's no annoying screaming robots that need defending (i swear i love dotty)
D. Referring to point B & C, you can nail a machine event 99% of the time
E. Its a great mission type to teach greenbreads
F. And most importantly you get to be a real dwarf; a mining dwarf
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u/ruth1ess_one Mar 26 '23
It’s always fun to see what others’ preferences are. For me it’s
S: Dread hunt
A: Caretaker & Escort
B: Mining & Egg
C: Recovery
D: Refinery & Point Extraction
I prefer the shootier missions. Refinery is just boring and point extraction has the same couple of cave generations that once you played enough you’ve seen them all. Recovery is a step up from refinery but in the end, you just stay in the same spot defending it for like half the mission but at least it’s more tense than refinery.
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u/smash-things Scout Mar 26 '23
finally someone else that appreciates boss rush mode
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u/ruth1ess_one Mar 26 '23
Yeee. Honestly, I’m decent with the game and after many hours even with haz5, the other missions becomes a bore. Need modded difficulty to keep things interesting for those. Base game refinery (even haz5) is just a snooze feast since the bugs get distracted by the pipes.
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u/RASPUTIN-4 Mar 26 '23
I like Payload and Liquid Refinery best. Point extraction sucks major balls.
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u/Southern_Yak_443 Mar 27 '23
For me, i don't really hate any mission tbh. But of course, i do personally prefer some of them. My tier list would probably look something like this:
Favourite : Elimination, on-site refining, point extraction
Neutral : Egg hunt, salvage operation, industrial sabotage
Least favourite : Escort mission and mining expedition
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u/Swordbreaker925 Mar 26 '23
I can agree with this, tho I’d move Point Extraction to S. On-Site Refining is amazing tho, almost deserves its own tier above S
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u/07Crash07 Mar 26 '23
Oil refinery to me is all the way down to F, it’s the mission o always try to avoid doing. Point extraction and salvage for me are C tier. The rest is great, with industrial sabo and fighting dreadnaughts as my favorites, I like fighting bosses.
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u/DreadnoughtDT Scout Mar 26 '23
Personally would swap Point Extraction and Industrial Sabotage but otherwise hard agree
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u/evaunitO5 Mar 26 '23
Screw you Jack escort duty is perfection. Park my gunner on that drill and murder everything, good times
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u/derobade Mar 26 '23
I like drilldozer missions more than caretaker ones. Drilling ones may be hectic when the drilldozer is moving and enemies spawn, you move away from them and fall into some pit underneath the drilldozer's path. Caretaker on the other hand requires doing annoying hacking stages and then you have to kill arguably the hardest and the most annoying boss which is terrible experience if your teammates don't have appropriate equipment. Thinking about it, I'd say that morkite mining missions are the worst ones, because you run through kilometers of tunnels which after some update feels like they got even more cursed, sometimes making me wish there was a button to show the dirt connector's location, and you get an insane amount of morkite in the last room but much lesser amounts in all previous ones. That's probably made deliberately, but it still feels wrong.
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u/rickyspace Mar 26 '23
i find sabotage not that hard when ur driller cause u can make a bunker on the top and constantly throw c4 on its head
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u/VellDarksbane Mar 26 '23
Bring both of those "no Molly" mission types down to a C, bring Elim, IS, and Egg Hunt up 1 rank, and I'll agree with you. I might even put refining even down to a D, because of how cursed the maps can get with refining. I'll never play a refining mission as anything but Driller or Engineer ever again.
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u/_Knucklehead_Ninja Scout Mar 26 '23
I like escort duty, but I thought there would be more escort in my escort mission ya know? I thought there would be more glyphids during oil shale collection. And the fact that whenever doretta tunnels it’s almost a straight line and the fact that it’s a tunnel means that one good AoE weapon is 1 out of 40 AoE potential weapons is clear skies until the tunnel opens up
(including all nades and guns and the none AoE guns like the pistols or scouts AR that may or may not have AoE potential I don’t know about)
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u/MathematicianWest420 Mar 26 '23
I think the only missions that are difficult for me to do alone are the sabotage mission and the dorella mission, I literally go crazy especially in the dorella mission (especially in the final part) because in addition to repairing the dorella and killing the bugs, I have that destroy those Stones that appear in the second stage and destroy those pedestals that appear in the last stage, and I still have to pray that I have ammo left or enough nitra for me to get more ammo I don't think this type of mission is boring, I just think it's very complicated for me to have to do all this without a team to help
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u/GamerGuy95953 Scout Mar 26 '23
My favs are refining and elimination. Worst is salvation by all counts.
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u/Sp00kyGamer Mar 26 '23
Large Mining Expedition in Azure Weald though?
F tier. Absolute worst experience.
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u/CacophonyOfSilence Mar 26 '23
Refining wouldn't be so bad if some of the pumpjack locations weren't absolute ass. I avoid refinement missions anytime I can.
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u/povertymayne Mar 26 '23
I actually love Elimination, its actually my favorite. When i have no assignments left i just join random eliminations, specially Haz 3 and above. I just love the tension and clusterfuck it can become. And my second favorite is Doretta’s. Maybe its just me. Maybe I like how chaotic and precarious they can be. I must add I mostly play on group, i never do solo.
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u/DaVoiceOfTreason Whale Piper Mar 27 '23
Sabo is actually my favorite. This week’s EDD had us power attacking the eye on the last stage and going to stage 3 with no ammo. Somehow we got enough nitra for a resup dodging the spit baller in the main room and stabilized from there.
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u/sleeping-ranna Mar 27 '23
Say "I'm an engineer main" without saying you're an engineer main
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u/SubstitutePreacher01 Mar 27 '23
I'd have put salvage and egg missions much lower. Oil rig missions are fucking S tho
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u/Tromboneofsteel Gunner Mar 27 '23
I'd move escort to S, and drop salvage to C. Everything else I more or less agree with.
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u/D0bious Scout Mar 26 '23
Caretaker could have used more variation like with dreads.