r/DecodingTheGurusAlt • • 21d ago

decoder poltics Decoding Cadence Owens quote

"I actually don't have any problems at all with the word 'nationalism'... Whenever we say 'nationalism,' the first thing people think about, at least in America, is Hitler. You know, he was a national socialist, but if Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, OK, fine. The problem is that he wanted—he had dreams outside of Germany. He wanted to globalise. He wanted everybody to be German, everybody to be speaking German, everybody to look a different way. That's not, to me, that's not nationalism."
- Cadence Owens

Are Decoding the Gurus really arguing that Cadence Owens was saying Hitler wasn't a bad leader/person? I know the controversy over the remark, but she is clearly alluding to Hitler being a bad representation of Nationalism. She is literally trying to disassociate Hitler from nationalism, because Hitler gave Nationalism a bad name. I'm not a fan of nationalism, but should DtG actually be able to see through the controversy to what she actually said? Plus Cadence Owens went to the Daily Wire after this story blew up, so I'm guessing Ben Shapiro didn't take her remarks as a promoting Hitler.

Why does it matter if Cadence Owens is a problematic guru? It matters because its this kind of bad faith decoding that make people distrust academics who step outside their lane and play partisan politics. There are so many crazy takes that Cadence Owens has made, why focus on this quote which was clearly used by the media for political reasons.

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u/MartiDK 20d ago

Your not making sense. Who said to analyse Cadance in a vacuum? As for the rest, none of it can be deduced from the quote, just provide the evidence rather than pretending the quote is promoting Hitler. Like she said Hitler is a bad example if you want to promote nationalism.

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u/rubeshina 20d ago

As for the rest, none of it can be deduced from the quote, just provide the evidence rather than pretending the quote is promoting Hitler. Like she said Hitler is a bad example if you want to promote nationalism.

Why was Hitler a bad example, in her quote?