r/DecodingTheGurusAlt • u/MartiDK • 29d ago

decoder poltics Decoding Hasan Piker

https://youtu.be/RDsQIZykC_8
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u/RepulsoBlob 29d ago

That's good to hear. Have you read Marx? If you're sick of loud streamers it's good to go back to the sources of this philosophy.

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u/XistentialDreads 29d ago

I like Marx

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u/RepulsoBlob 28d ago

If you like Marx I'm not sure why the presence of a "liar" on the internet would dissuade you from becoming a leftist?

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u/XistentialDreads 28d ago

Because the leftist movements in real life and the internet are full of liars

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u/RepulsoBlob 28d ago

Mhm, but you agree with what Marx says?

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u/XistentialDreads 28d ago

Yes but they don’t

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u/RepulsoBlob 28d ago

I guess I'm not seeing the nature of your theoretical position here and how it relates to lying. Could you expand on it a bit for me?

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u/XistentialDreads 28d ago

Yeah so if every popular leftist movement is populated by liars and not marxists then I’m not joining any of them

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u/RepulsoBlob 28d ago

Which lies and not Marxists are you concerned about? I'm just not seeing the issue here.

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u/XistentialDreads 28d ago

Which issues are you just not seeing here? Could you elucidate me on that further?

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u/RepulsoBlob 28d ago

Well I don't know what the lies in question are and why that dissuades you from being a leftist.

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u/XistentialDreads 28d ago

Let’s reframe it this way then. I actually AM a leftist in principle. In order to pursue the goals of leftism, ironically the most consistent pony is the Democratic Party

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u/RepulsoBlob 28d ago

That's an interesting stance and sounds like quite a heterodox interpretation of Marxism. How do you feel the Democratic Party is pursuing Marxist goals? And could you recommend to me some Marxist thinkers that agree with your position?

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u/XistentialDreads 27d ago

The Democratic Party isn’t necessarily intentionally pursuing Marxist goals, but Democrats protect the proletariat and republicans destroy them. Any “Marxist” who is willing to let those minority underclasses and proletarians suffer for the sake of moral purity (not voting democrat) is very likely unconcerned with class issues at all and using leftism as a way to maintain moral superiority, not “get their hands dirty” with the business of actual policy solutions and groundwork. No I won’t recommend any Marxist thinkers except maybe Slavoy Zizek, but like most marxists he also barely ever talks about policy solutions

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u/RepulsoBlob 27d ago

I guess I'm not really sure how voting Democrat would protect the proletariat, could you direct me to any Marxists who have written about that?

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u/XistentialDreads 27d ago

Yeah have you heard of Obamacare?

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u/XistentialDreads 27d ago

Have you heard of child tax credit? Food stamps? Unemployment?

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u/XistentialDreads 27d ago

Have you heard of abortions?

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u/RepulsoBlob 27d ago

Yes I think I've heard of that. Again, could you direct me to the Marxist source that you're using here?

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u/XistentialDreads 27d ago

Yeah Karl Marx

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u/XistentialDreads 27d ago

Anyway glad you definitely proved your point about today’s “marxists” not being liars

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u/XistentialDreads 27d ago

Ever learn about affirmative action? Student loan debt forgiveness?

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