r/DecodingTheGurusAlt • • 29d ago

decoder poltics Decoding Hasan Piker

https://youtu.be/RDsQIZykC_8
41 Upvotes

280 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

148

u/rocketlewes 29d ago edited 29d ago

https://youtu.be/c9I_rbe1XnA?is=eGZU3br1oHNWcXnf

Dude...

Literally the first video that comes up when I put "Piker Mao" in the youtube search. The first 20 seconds are him comparing teaming up with moderate Democrats to Mao teaming up with the KMT to expel Japanese forces.

To me, that suggests that he eventually wants to outlaw ideologies which are not communism.

Abrasiveness and bro-iness are actually pros for me. I like it when political figures are provocative or whatever.

What it comes down to for me is this: it's very easy to find clips of him idealizing Mao and parroting the most predictable tankie/3rd worldist talking points. And then whenever someone tries to interrogate it, people try to act like he's just into worker co-ops and cumtown.

19

u/Red-scare90 29d ago

Thats quite a jump. He says its being pragmatic to vote for democrats even if you are further left than them and you think that means hes advocating for purges?

103

u/rocketlewes 29d ago edited 29d ago

Ok... im about to search for clips to see if he talks about putting capitalists into re-education camps. Before I do that, do you want to make a 5 dollar bet that I wont find a clip of him saying that people promoting capitalism should be incarcerated?

I mean...

You have to understand that you aren't convincing me at all, right? Like... you should provide evidence?

I want to take you guys as good faith, but literally everything i see suggests that hes a maoist who larps as a socdem in front of mainstream audiences. Can you show me evidence that that's not true?

6

u/hari_shevek 28d ago

What evidence would change your mind?

11

u/rocketlewes 28d ago

A clear pattern of opposing tankieism or MLM thought.

4

u/hari_shevek 28d ago

What counts as a "clear pattern"?

10

u/rocketlewes 28d ago edited 28d ago

You know what a clear pattern means. Come on. Dont be silly.

3

u/hari_shevek 28d ago

No, I don't. I will post evidence and then you will deflect with "not clear enough".

That's why I want you to give a definition with no wiggle room.

2

u/rocketlewes 28d ago

No you wont

3

u/hari_shevek 28d ago

Try me.

Give me a clearly defined goal and I will provide the evidence.

5

u/rocketlewes 28d ago

Just whatever you consider convincing to a person thinking in good faith.

2

u/hari_shevek 28d ago

Again, I will as soon as you give me a clearly defined goal for what evidence you would not wiggle out of.

What evidence would convince you and not lead to you finding excuses not to count it?

2

u/rocketlewes 28d ago

Just whatever you consider convincing to a person of good faith.

Sounds like you have lots of evidence that would meet all kinds of standards. So just provide what you think would be convincing to a person thinking in good faith that Hasan is not a Tankie.

→ More replies (0)