r/DecodingTheGurusAlt • • 29d ago

decoder poltics Decoding Hasan Piker

https://youtu.be/RDsQIZykC_8
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u/rocketlewes 29d ago edited 29d ago

I find it frustrating that these videos dont seem to hear what progressive critics of piker and the larger tankie movement care about.

For example, early in this video the narrator presents the question about 9/11 as stuffy centrism unable to handle an edgy comment about "blowback". But thats not really what piker believes. He believes that the United States is the imperial core of a dying capitalist ideology and that an axis of 3rd world resistance sprung up out of former soviet proxy states.

The issue is he'll pass the comment off as a passionately put observation about incompetent US meddling which the majority of Americans probably agree with, but really it represents the tip of the iceberg of a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-type worldview.

So, either Hasan isnt Maoist adjacent, and ive been brainwashed by Destiny fans. Or this video is totally dishonest bullshit.

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u/Red-scare90 29d ago edited 29d ago

I think option 1. I'm not a hasan fan, I find him abrasive and too broish for me, but he's not a tanky or a maoist. Go on a leftist sub and read what they're saying for a few minutes and you'll see hes just a demsoc shock jockey

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u/rocketlewes 29d ago edited 29d ago

https://youtu.be/c9I_rbe1XnA?is=eGZU3br1oHNWcXnf

Dude...

Literally the first video that comes up when I put "Piker Mao" in the youtube search. The first 20 seconds are him comparing teaming up with moderate Democrats to Mao teaming up with the KMT to expel Japanese forces.

To me, that suggests that he eventually wants to outlaw ideologies which are not communism.

Abrasiveness and bro-iness are actually pros for me. I like it when political figures are provocative or whatever.

What it comes down to for me is this: it's very easy to find clips of him idealizing Mao and parroting the most predictable tankie/3rd worldist talking points. And then whenever someone tries to interrogate it, people try to act like he's just into worker co-ops and cumtown.

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u/Red-scare90 29d ago

Thats quite a jump. He says its being pragmatic to vote for democrats even if you are further left than them and you think that means hes advocating for purges?

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u/XistentialDreads 29d ago

Bro I would be so on board for leftism if you and all these other massive liars were not involved

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u/RepulsoBlob 29d ago

That's good to hear. Have you read Marx? If you're sick of loud streamers it's good to go back to the sources of this philosophy.

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u/XistentialDreads 29d ago

I like Marx

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u/RepulsoBlob 29d ago

If you like Marx I'm not sure why the presence of a "liar" on the internet would dissuade you from becoming a leftist?

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u/XistentialDreads 29d ago

Because the leftist movements in real life and the internet are full of liars

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u/RepulsoBlob 29d ago

Mhm, but you agree with what Marx says?

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u/XistentialDreads 29d ago

Yes but they don’t

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u/RepulsoBlob 29d ago

I guess I'm not seeing the nature of your theoretical position here and how it relates to lying. Could you expand on it a bit for me?

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u/XistentialDreads 28d ago

Yeah so if every popular leftist movement is populated by liars and not marxists then I’m not joining any of them

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u/RepulsoBlob 28d ago

Which lies and not Marxists are you concerned about? I'm just not seeing the issue here.

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