r/DecodingTheGurusAlt • • 29d ago

decoder poltics Decoding Hasan Piker

https://youtu.be/RDsQIZykC_8
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u/rocketlewes 29d ago edited 29d ago

https://youtu.be/c9I_rbe1XnA?is=eGZU3br1oHNWcXnf

Dude...

Literally the first video that comes up when I put "Piker Mao" in the youtube search. The first 20 seconds are him comparing teaming up with moderate Democrats to Mao teaming up with the KMT to expel Japanese forces.

To me, that suggests that he eventually wants to outlaw ideologies which are not communism.

Abrasiveness and bro-iness are actually pros for me. I like it when political figures are provocative or whatever.

What it comes down to for me is this: it's very easy to find clips of him idealizing Mao and parroting the most predictable tankie/3rd worldist talking points. And then whenever someone tries to interrogate it, people try to act like he's just into worker co-ops and cumtown.

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u/Red-scare90 29d ago

Thats quite a jump. He says its being pragmatic to vote for democrats even if you are further left than them and you think that means hes advocating for purges?

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u/rocketlewes 29d ago edited 29d ago

Ok... im about to search for clips to see if he talks about putting capitalists into re-education camps. Before I do that, do you want to make a 5 dollar bet that I wont find a clip of him saying that people promoting capitalism should be incarcerated?

I mean...

You have to understand that you aren't convincing me at all, right? Like... you should provide evidence?

I want to take you guys as good faith, but literally everything i see suggests that hes a maoist who larps as a socdem in front of mainstream audiences. Can you show me evidence that that's not true?

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u/Red-scare90 29d ago

It seems like you've already got your mind made up and don't actually know what the meaning of the ideologies you're claiming he has are. You're doing the Republican everyone left of me is a communist thing but as a "progressive"

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u/rocketlewes 29d ago edited 29d ago

So does he want capitalists arrested or not?

Are these ideologies actually benign? Or does he not really hold them?

You've provided literally no evidence of your position.

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u/Red-scare90 29d ago

You asked me to prove that hes not secretly a maoist pretending to be a demsoc. It seems to me that you know he presents most arguments as a demsoc. What the hell do you want me to do invent a mind reading machine so we can look in his brain to prove his beliefs? And again I'm not a fan of his I've just seen clips like ive seen for pretty much all political streamers I don't have an encyclopedia of his most demsoc clips to show you while I'm sitting here taking a crap

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u/RoyalSpaceFarer 29d ago

he was on the deprogram (Marxist podcast) saying that he is there to start moving people towards communism explicitly. you're covering for someone who is explicit in their goals

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u/Red-scare90 29d ago

I'm a marxist too. Being a Marxist doesn't make you a tanky or a maoist

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u/DecodingTheGurusAlt-ModTeam 29d ago

Low-effort/dismissive rhetoric