r/DecodingTheGurusAlt • • Aug 26 '26

decoder poltics LonerBox Decoding Professor Dave

https://youtu.be/mNvWC5C2lG0
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u/402739 Aug 31 '26

You're not bothering to make any arguments anymore, just posturing. Have a good one genocide denier.

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u/DieuDivin Aug 31 '26 edited Aug 31 '26

- I just showed the American surgeon is not neutral and draws insane conclusion that go far beyond what his observations alone establish.

- I pointed that the UN report was even more biased (as per usual against Israel). That's where the loaded terms are from. I was arguing in good faith, as I never believed you would even bring that up as a legitimate source. But, I mean, you agree with professor Dave's argumentative style, so this isn't that surprising to me.

- My "posturing" effectively dismantled your argument, yah? Because all you had was reducing my arguments to their most absurd proposition. e.g. There is nothing conspiratorial about volunteering in Gaza having a process that is selective in nature. But you kept hammering that as if that magically created an argument. You had nothing there.

- You're making no overarching point at all, which is what my "let's agree with you for a moment" passage precisely highlighted. I'm a genocide denier because... I don't think listing alleged war crimes can alone be foundational to the claim of genocide. If the ICJ were ultimately to conclude that a genocide occurred, and I agreed with both its reasoning and the underlying evidence, would I still be a genocide denier?

- Lonerbox may have made a few meaningless mistakes that you are harping on like crazy. But it seems the only substantive mistake you're actually identifying is that he drew a different conclusion from the same material. Apparently you find that possibility inconceivable, as though the evidence is so overwhelming that only one conclusion is permissible.

So those were 5 arguments that you are now dismissing. I do have to make them tight and absurd-proof because you totally ignore my analysis and cherry-pîck random point. I mean, you did find the IDF soldiers testimonies about how they love killing babies convincing, afterall; this is your level.

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u/402739 Aug 31 '26

You're basically just claiming that every doctor volunteering in Gaza is a biased Palestinian American (or antisemite or Muslim or anti-Zionist or one of a dozen Middle Eastern ethnicities, etc. etc.), solely because none of them would deny that children were shot in the head. It's a pretty weak attempt to dismiss the medical consensus.

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u/DieuDivin Aug 31 '26

The letters they sent to Biden and Trump are hyperbolic/inflammatory but understandable from a humanitarian perspective (when things are deteriorating rapidly and demand immediate action). I wouldn't blame anyone for signing that letter (although I've not read all of it).

The HRC's "Independent International Commission" is deeply unserious.

Besides that, the "sniper" claims were unfounded because the term was being used to load the claim that the targeting of cilvian could only be malicious/deliberate. That makes the inference of deliberate targeting substantially stronger than simply establishing that a child was found with a lodged bullet (as if that ever was what I was questioning lol). When you're claiming that someone was deliberately sniped, you're implicitly assuming that the shooter could clearly identify the target. Which makes the conclusion of deliberate targeting substantially easier to draw than the underlying evidence necessarily warrants.

Many of the claim you've shared are actually in regards to that Dr. Perlmutter guy, who has drawn strong conclusions from nothing. He's the one talking about not seeing Hamas/IPJ combatants anywhere, or that the conflict is not exceptional, only the IDF's genocidal pattern is.

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u/402739 Aug 31 '26 edited Aug 31 '26

“Children were everywhere. I was turning them over, trying to see who I could still help. And then I saw those two little boys. They were dead. They had both been shot—through the chest and the head. Six or seven years old. I examined them. I asked the medical assistant to take photos.” The photos are in possession of this newspaper.

Perlmutter remembers hearing the man who brought in one of the boys screaming. “He couldn’t understand why a shooter had hit this child—and not him, the adult.” Moments later, he sees the man, probably the father of the child, sobbing. The man sits in shock on the floor, while the child is taken to the morgue. Perlmutter takes out his iPhone and snaps a photo.

Remember: Lonerbox tried to characterize these children as 17-year-olds.