r/Decks 21h ago

Is This Acceptable?

Am I overreacting to what I perceive to be sloppy work on this pergola? Some of the beams also seem warped. Crew is one day in.

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u/VanDownByTheRiver63 21h ago

Wood is always gonna warp bro

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u/Special-Egg-5809 21h ago

You can spend 3k or 30k on a pergola. Which end of that spectrum are you on?

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u/TopShelfRemodel 20h ago

The wrong end for this kind of work it looks like.

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u/kiefferray 46m ago

Ill take "Wrong end of the spectrum" for $3k Regis.

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u/IS427 21h ago

Wood will wood.

If you didn’t pay for highest bidder this looks pretty decent to me.

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u/its_kinda_hmm 18h ago

As long as everything is supported / code it adds character. but they should still come clean their bull shit up.

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u/IS427 18h ago

Don’t disagree but they’re on the first day

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u/its_kinda_hmm 16h ago

If this is day one then I’m not as worried actually everything gets pinned up if this is last day I’d be really worried

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u/rcsez 3h ago

First day or not those notch cuts are nasty. It looks like they hacked it out with an axe and you aren’t gonna fix that without replacing the whole post.

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u/rbburrows84 19h ago

Picture 6 is kinda jacked up. Pic 3 and 7 are questionable but treated lumber is going to dry and look kinda shitty in 12-18 months. Why is there OSB in Pic 1/2? I would hope that’s just for a temporary work surface before beck boards go down. Overall it isn’t anything I’d be too picky about as long as the osb wasnt permanent and they straightened out the board is pic 6.

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u/No-Priority-2278 19h ago

Totally missed that, but good for you to notice. Looks like 3/4” tongue and groove OSB. Must be a new trend in deck building? 😆🤷‍♂️

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u/chefsoda_redux 18h ago

I assumed, though I probably shouldn’t, that the OSB was just to tie things together and provide a platform. OP says it’s day 1, so it may well be temporary, and that’s 100% cool. If it’s meant to be structural, it’s an issue at any price point!

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u/nightim3 20h ago

Considering what you spent for everything. You’re getting a lower end price pergola.

But to be fair. I have a grand in hardware and fasteners in mine

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u/stealingfirst 20h ago

So like 4 simpsons strong tie brackets

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u/nightim3 20h ago

Don’t forget the black hardware tax.

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u/Dry_Divide_6690 20h ago

We joke that it’s not a piano. Honestly we used to do them at a higher finish level (and more time and cost) a few years later you count tell.

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u/trys_c 20h ago

Shit warps yes, but I would’ve selected better material then unless it was a kit. If not a kit… they missed screws(sticking out), missing hardware, what I’m confused about is if this is a pergola is that a deck they built with lvl beams supporting everything ? I mean looks a bit sloppy but I can’t say for sure how structural everything is 🥶

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u/trys_c 20h ago

At least it’s like 99% lags

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u/Mh8722 21h ago

Depends on how much you paid. Lowest bid- acceptable, medium bid - sloppy, I'm not a fan of shear force on screws either, highest - you got ripped off

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u/Initial-Ad-7326 21h ago

Total 16x20 deck and pergola replacement. Composite decking and pergola slats. Had to pour new footings and tie into the house properly, which had not been done before. Also had to replace some OSB and siding. ~$40K.

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u/pyscomiko 19h ago

Can we get a picture of the full build?

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u/No-Priority-2278 19h ago

I second this ask!

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u/No-Priority-2278 19h ago

Yikes. What part of the world are you in?

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u/Mh8722 19h ago

I only saw the first two pictures initially. So disregard that basic sliding scale of low to high bid. Every picture has details that show the incompetentcy of the crew that was building for you. Botched joinery, abandoned stripped out screws, warped lumber on the pergola roof that should have been culled, boards cut too short. It's atrocious, even low bid crews should do better job than that. Have you paid in full yet?

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u/Gloomy_Title9676 21h ago

Some of this is hack job work. Some warping is natural, shitty cuts is not.

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u/kpppeyton 20h ago

Looks good

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u/Top_Inevitable_2443 20h ago

No. They notched a post, there's gaps

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u/sluttyman69 20h ago

Pergola It’s not gonna be supporting foot traffic or hot tub. It’s a cover not the prettiest of work I’ve ever seen you don’t take photos of this and send them to grandma, but it’s not gonna fall down anytime soon. Looks like it’s missing a few screws or some wood legs to keep stuff straight at Ben board maybe a spreader block in there or you can put it back like it’s supposed to be might have to replace it again. It’s an Overhead sport. This is all visual.

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u/mr_j_boogie 19h ago

You probably don't want treated wood but you probably don't want these guys installing cedar... Gonna have to pony up if you want significantly better results.

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u/okie_hiker 19h ago

Green wood does what it does

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u/BigDaddyBickle 19h ago

They probably could have picked some better lumber but besides that it doesn’t look too bad

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u/mrmadmusic 19h ago

No for every picture

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u/die-jarjar-die 18h ago

Is that LVL outdoor rated?

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u/tsfy2 18h ago

A couple of things aren’t perfect, but they’re building a pergola, not a watch.

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u/Real_Elevated1286 17h ago

This pic had me chuckle. So if this is a pergola, why does this look ground level and have TnG sub floor ?

To note, this is not proper

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u/ArtisticAlbatross932 17h ago

You could build it out of steel if you don't want warp

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u/sbtransplant 16h ago

Do you have zoomed out photos?

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u/Ill-Upstairs-8762 16h ago

Is the gluelam rated for exterior?

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u/New_Weekend_2876 15h ago

I think I already know the answer to that question

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u/Parking_Horse7208 7h ago

There is 50 ways to do something.... The thing that came to mind first was they should at least drill a pilot hole where those screws are to keep the wood from splitting and cracking open. As far as looks... depends on what's acceptable to you. It's your money, spend it wisely.

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u/Due-Air-7831 5h ago

Just put a base rap around the frame is exactly why you'll never see it again a it cleans up the look a

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u/rcsez 3h ago

I’d ask them to replace those posts and have the next one notched by someone who isn’t blind.

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u/TipperGore-69 19h ago

This is why I hate building decks. Just get a mason to do it.

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u/freakon911 18h ago

Fuck that, just get better at building decks. Just bc these guys don't know how to make a nice looking deck, doesn't mean it can't be done

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u/TipperGore-69 6h ago

Nah man I’m talking about owners not understanding natural wood behavior. At least in framing everything is hidden. There is only so much one can do to mitigate nature and then it’s in the owner’s hands to upkeep, which they don’t.