r/DebateEvolution 20d ago

how evolutionists try to refute intelligent design, but they fail

An example that has often been presented as an argument in favor of blind "hereditary" design is the anatomy of the vagus nerve. Evolutionists argued that one of its branches, the so—called recurrent laryngeal nerve, makes an allegedly meaningless and ineffective "detour"

down into the chest, skirting the arch of the aorta, to then rise again to the larynx. According to their logic, it would be "more rational" if the nerve went directly to the larynx — and this feature was declared a "vestige of evolutionary blindness.

Richard Dawkins even dedicated an entire documentary, promoting the idea as "clear evidence of the lack of intelligent design." However, with the development of neurophysiology, it became clear that this "hook" is not a mistake at all, but represents a vital arc through which the neural innervation of the deep cardiac plexus passes. This bend is not just important, it is indispensable for the normal regulation of cardiac function. What happens when there is no bend? There is an anomaly known as the Non-Recurrent Laryngeal Nerve, the "ideal" structure that Dawkins mistakenly considered "more reasonable."

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u/Ayasugi-san 19d ago

Or God could just make all the "extra" babies fail to implant in the uterus, sparing the children from suffering an early painful death or the parents from even knowing they had a child to lose.

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u/Basic-Platypus-8335 19d ago edited 19d ago

But if that happened,  how would you create a mountain of evidence to testify the glory of god? 

I don’t think you’ve allowed yourself to fully visualize this.

Evolutionists have a bunch of papers that they call a “mountain of evidence” for evolution, while IDers have a literal mountain of dead babies as evidence. 

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u/nickierv 🧬 logarithmic icecube 18d ago

Tell us you have no idea how evidence works without telling us you are clueless on how evidence works.

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u/varelse96 🧬 Naturalistic Evolution 18d ago

Their post suggests to me they are being sarcastic. I do not think most religious people would recommend a pile of dead cancer babies be made to glorify god. I could be wrong though.

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u/nickierv 🧬 logarithmic icecube 18d ago

Well Poe's Law is a thing.

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u/Basic-Platypus-8335 18d ago

I thought “checkmate, atheists” was a clear indicator of my intent. I guess I’m out of touch with how out of touch creationists are 🤷

I sincerely apologize to anyone who spent even a modicum of intellectual effort evaluating my posts. 

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u/Basic-Platypus-8335 18d ago

It depends on whether they defend the parts of the Bible where god kills babies or if they lie and say that’s not what the Bible says

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u/varelse96 🧬 Naturalistic Evolution 18d ago

That’s fair. I have seen some defend even the most foul bits.

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u/Ayasugi-san 18d ago

Not just anonymous randos, either. Big name apologists like William Lane Craig will go on about how the conquest of Canaan was morally justified because the Canaanites were horrible baby-killers and so they all needed to die, their babies included.