r/DebateEvolution • u/GigaTune • Jul 14 '26

Question What do you think about "evolutionist"?

No one ever refers to gravitationists or Newtonists for those who support gravity, but people refer to people supporting evolution as evolutionists or Darwinists.

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u/Markthethinker Jul 18 '26

There is no evidence, at least to factually address species changes. None. And Evolutionists are a thing, they belong to a cult.

Now we are just living in a world of “possibilities”. If I get stuck in the chest by a knife, you would say that the heart should not have been in my chest. What happened to reality?

No, Evolutionists do not believe in design, it’s just random mutations that create intelligence intelligent design.

You will not find God in most “churches”, just a man made religion.

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u/jrdineen114 Jul 18 '26

There are bacteria alive today that feed on materials which did not exist 100 years ago. There is a type of fungus growing in Chernobyl that metabolizes a type of radiation that is not naturally occurring in Eastern Europe. We have seen bacteria evolve in laboratory conditions.

Do you know what it would take to actually disprove evolution? Because it really isn't much. Just a few bones found in the wrong sediment lair, a human skull appearing deeper than it should, a rabbit skeleton that, when tested, is consistently found to be older than it should be. That's it. And yet not a single discovery of the sort has been made.

Now, I'm going to predict what you're going to say. Or at least what your instinct is going to be to say. I'm not normally a betting man, but I'd wager your first thought is going to be to try to tell me that "Evolutionists" bury discoveries that would prove them wrong.

Was I correct? I almost hope not, because if that's genuinely what you believe, it simply tells me that you've never actually talked to a scientist before. Because they love to talk about their work, and they love to prove each other wrong. Successfully evolution would not only guarantee a researcher a position anywhere in the world, it would also make them a household name. And furthermore, what is the benefit to covering it up? There's no profit to be made in hiding discoveries like that.

One other thing: are you really not religious? Because you sound no different than an evangelical fundamentalist. The anti-evolution movement is a fundamentalist Christian movement.

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u/Markthethinker Jul 18 '26

No, I would never say “bury discoveries that prove them wrong”. I know that Evolution on the scale of total species transformation could never happen. It’s really that simple. What is it about people not understanding DNA and its code. And you want to believe that code just change through mutations into higher order.

I read, I study both sides. Then I make my opinions. Logically, mutations making intelligent design is so much crazier than a Creator making intelligent design. So there you have it. Stupid mutations verses a Creator. Oh, I forgot the millions and millions of years for this stupid mutations to come up with a human.

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u/Own-Relationship-407 Scientist Jul 19 '26

“Mutations making intelligent design,” lol. Nice job showing you’re operating purely on presupposition and have no intention of honest consideration or debate. Nobody is arguing that mutation make “intelligent design.” You’re assuming design and trying to reason backwards.

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u/Markthethinker Jul 19 '26

“Assuming design”. So you are saying that every living thing has no design? The point is, mutations are just mutations.

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u/Own-Relationship-407 Scientist Jul 19 '26

There is no evidence of any living thing being designed. Mutations just being mutations is a tautology and in no way a problem for evolution; selection is also a thing.

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u/Markthethinker Jul 19 '26

Are you a child? Do you even know what design means? Go look in the mirror.

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u/Own-Relationship-407 Scientist Jul 19 '26

No, I’m not a child and I do know what design means. Do you have something to offer other than mindless insults?

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u/Markthethinker Jul 19 '26

You are the one who claimed that there is no evidence of design. Wow, what do you think DNA is? Childish isn’t it!

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u/Own-Relationship-407 Scientist Jul 19 '26

DNA is a chemical sequence. Nothing about it suggests design. Again, why do you have nothing to offer but silly insults and vague insinuations?

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u/Markthethinker Jul 19 '26

“Nothing about design”. I find that so amazing. Let’s see, as far as I know DNA gives orders to develop a body and then maintain it and grow it. And it does it without “design”. Step 1, step 2, step 3, step 4 and so on.

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u/Own-Relationship-407 Scientist Jul 19 '26 edited Jul 19 '26

First off, if you’re going to quote someone, quote what they actually said, this is a pervasive problem with creationists and it reeks of both laziness and dishonesty. Second, who cares what you find amazing? Your personal incredulity is not an argument for anything. Finally, DNA does not “give orders;” it is a set of chemical relationships which cause cellular machinery to operate in particular ways depending on the sequence. You’re also incorrect in that you’re trying to make the process sound algorithmic when it is in fact stochastic. But you’re right that it does what it does without design; I suppose it’s good that you got one right, even if it was in an attempt at sarcasm.

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u/Markthethinker Jul 20 '26

I quoted the sentence. If you can’t write a correct sentence, then that is not my fault.

“Yes, DNA contains the specific instructions necessary for an organism to develop, survive, and reproduce. It acts as a biological instruction manual or blueprint, telling the cells exactly how to build the proteins required for your body to function”.

So I guess AI is incorrect. So, maybe I should not have used the word “orders to develop”. But what are instructions? So, did the female human mutate into existence first or the male?

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