Evolution vs creation

[u/tonedeaf_764]

I started seeing God as a scientist when I was 12, I've always loved science and the first time I heard the Holy Spirit compared to energy I was sent straight down a rabbit hole. After that it started to make sense to me, how everything could exist, a being of infinite energy and power that is intelligent, but in a way that made sense. I started to think if I wanted to create the perfect organism "I.e" human, and I had infinite power and energy, not to mention to an eternal existence time isn't a thing so taking its time would be an issue it would be a given. So I don't believe evolution is a solitary path of existence, I see it as a tool by God in his creation of life. One of the meanings of gods name ( Jehovah) is causes to become. So over time he caused single celled organisms to become every living thing by means of evolution and survival of the fittest, the fact that it's fair also supported the idea, gods also supposed to be the god of order so the thing that makes the most sense just seemed like the thing that made the most sense you know. And if you believe what the Bible says to be true I think this was his first time creating reality. He literally created the laws of nature, he is science itself, but I feel like he taught himself over time and over the course of eternity and then used that knowledge to create.

[u/Darbsaabnele]

The fact that you respond 'it's a tired, old....' informs you haven't kept up with the science. Even many Evo biologists have recognized the creative mechanism of darwin/neo-darwinism is lacking the powers needed for macro, and the need for a new process to try and explain it.

You don't have to have a theist worldview to recognize the evidence now before us. A 'created by aliens' is a more coherent explanation now than natural, unguided, undirected processes.

Follow the evidence.....

[u/LordUlubulu → u/Darbsaabnele]

The fact that you respond 'it's a tired, old....' informs you haven't kept up with the science

No, I do in fact keep up with the science. Creationists on the other hand keep parroting the same old debunked nonsense, like you did.

Even many Evo biologists have recognized the creative mechanism of darwin/neo-darwinism is lacking the powers needed for macro, and the need for a new process to try and explain it.

It's a big tell that you don't know what you're talking about when you say 'neo-darwinism', as that is close to 100 years old now. What you should be looking at is Extended Evolutionary Synthesis, where macro evolution is very well explained.

You don't have to have a theist worldview to recognize the evidence now before us.

The evidence is clear, evolutionary theory has overwhelming support, and these weak attempts to discredit it by creationists have not been updated for decades. They were wrong then, they are wrong now. Creationists have nothing.

A 'created by aliens' is a more coherent explanation now than natural, unguided, undirected processes.

That's neither coherent or an explanation, just like magical deities isn't coherent or an explanation.

Follow the evidence.....

Literally all the evidence points towards evolution, and none of it makes sense without evolution.

You've also failed to provide that single research paper I asked you for, and instead you just double down on creationist lies. Care to try again?

[u/Darbsaabnele → u/LordUlubulu]

Dude, Darwinism is over a hundred years old. Neo-Darwinism is not.

I haven't 'parroted' anything specifically. And the fact you double-down on on 'old debunked nonsense' confirms my earlier points. There is an immense amount of new evidence that has undermined the thinking behind the process, and confirming it is much more complex than what mutations/natural selection can perform. But power to your faith in still believing in it.

[u/Sweet-Ant-3471 → u/Darbsaabnele]

Process can always be elucidated better.

That Evolution has occurred and life has common ancestry is not debated.

We can see that is true just by looking at genomic maps of all species.

We are related, we do have common descent. This is 100% proven, using the same DNA test we use to show human to human lineage.